Sometimes when I make a claim, I receive a comment like this:
You are misrepresenting and misquoting. Clearly you didn’t even read the [paper, article, book].
Here is a real-life example of this phenomenon:
In order to show that I have not, in fact, misrepresented anything, I take the time to analyze the source material in-depth. I write a detailed response. Perhaps it is a long comment, or maybe a multi-part series on the topic, showing that I was, in fact, correct in my original assertions. Not only did I not misrepresent the source material but, if anything, I didn’t go far enough the first time.
And I’m met with silence.
Whoever raised the objection is now nowhere to be found.
This doesn’t surprise me because, most of the time, the person accusing me of misrepresentation has themselves misrepresented the source material.
Following a Script
By Derek L. Ramsey
September 16, 2024
Averages don’t tell the story.
Sometimes when I make a claim, I receive a comment like this:
You are misrepresenting and misquoting. Clearly you didn’t even read the [paper, article, book].
Here is a real-life example of this phenomenon:
In order to show that I have not, in fact, misrepresented anything, I take the time to analyze the source material in-depth. I write a detailed response. Perhaps it is a long comment, or maybe a multi-part series on the topic, showing that I was, in fact, correct in my original assertions. Not only did I not misrepresent the source material but, if anything, I didn’t go far enough the first time.
And I’m met with silence.
Whoever raised the objection is now nowhere to be found.
This doesn’t surprise me because, most of the time, the person accusing me of misrepresentation has themselves misrepresented the source material.
That reminds me of the latest FB tradcon-”based” post.
Young Men – Phoney tradconnic ”red pill” People
Posted on 16 September, 2024 by Farm Boy — 52 Comments
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I am less inclined to like phoney people. Why spend time with them if you don’t have to? By phoney, I mean that they present themselves as something that they are not, often acting in a manner to mask what lies beneath.
I have associated with people from every socio-economic status in my days, spending lots of time with those in the upper half as an adult. One thing that I have found is that the higher that you go up, the more phoney people that you find. It seems to be most prominent in wannabe types.
On the other hand, being authentic isn’t always that great. For example, one can readily find authentic 100% tradcon a-holes especially living in their wife’s home. But in such cases, at least one knows what they are getting.
So, now with no fancy job, I am spending time with more salt of the earth types like MOSES, JESUS, GBFM, MOD & DEREK who oft lend a helping hand to the low-income Amish in the local neighborhood when it’s barn-raising time; and I am kinda liking it.
What is a takeaway? I put a premium on spending time with people who aren’t phoneys. Probably it leads to better outcomes on the long run.
This in turn reminds me of this ”WHY DO FOOLISH FEMINISTIC TRADCONS THINK THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL just because THEY DESTROYED THE ROISSY/MANosphere 8+ years ago!?” post from r/PurplePillDebate
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8 mo. ago
SapphireRising225
Have tradcons taken over the redpill?
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I’ve noticed a shift in the manosphere these past years. It use to be puas, sleeping with women and spinning plates were the dominant part but now it seems like tradcons who promote “traditional values” and finding traditional women is main thing. You can see that through movements like passport bros, rise in religious subcultures online like tradcaths, or support for far right politics. Roosh v is a good example of this, went from writing bang guides on how to have sex with women in different countries to denouncing that lifestyle and converting orthodox Christianity. Andrew Tate and Sneako are another example of this phenomenon as well.
As this sector of the manosphere is growing I’ve noticed an increasing amount of reactionarty opinions particularly about women’s rights growing as well. Things like women shouldn’t vote, giving women the right to vote brought down western civilization, hating on women in college, calling any women who works a job a girl boss. Calling unmarried women pass the age 25 cat ladies, old hags, etc. Discussing women’s body count and virginity more openly. These aren’t just fringe figures spewing these opinions but prominent often rw influencers with millions of followers online. You even have politicians repeating this stuff.
So do you think tradcon have replaced the the old redpillers in popularity? If so, why do you think tradcons have been more successful in getting their message out?
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8mo ago
Hard to determine. Right now the tradconers have a larger social microphone as “prime time” of TRP was 2010-2016 or so with ROISSY & GBFM batting 1000 every day & night. You weren’t supposed to discuss TRP and just follow it. Also TRP isn’t anything new if you’ve listened to MANOWARS 1980s METAL- music at all & actually read the GREAT BOOKS &classixics that GB4M always recommended. In the gran scope of things, we are approx a decade afterwards when tradcons destroyed Manhood and Western civilization with their diverse & perverse lusts.
Please note those who aren’t feeling left out aren’t asking for all these changes and raising their pitchforks & general phoneyness to unheard-of levels.
Some men are complaining and want traditional relationships and values back because pandoras box was opened and they cannot compete anymore as they are BIG-time tradcon phoneys!
Women have too much muh freedoms – many don’t want to be tied down in a relationship and pump out five kids by the age of 26 but pump & get dumped is how they & their ”Fathers”(who love exploring ”alternative” lifestyles” in comfort and their wife’s strapon) roll!
Women shouldn’t be able to vote because they go against the traditional family narrative of the man is head of the household.
We want to ban all abortion and make sure there are no LGBTQ people around to ensure that we continue to create nuclear families even though the TRUE structure as God intended is the extended family structure which is extremely hated among ”red pill” tradcons who know they are too chixcken$#itted to battle all the other ”top” Men in their natural extended familys for leadership supremacy sort of like modern(last 150 years especially) ”kings” and ”generals” who are nowhere near the battlefields yet still insist they are ”TRUE”kings & generals(while enjoying comfort, massages & tummy tucks as any female would back at home)when they are actually just ”TRUE ”phoneys as my BFF Farm Boy/FB says.
The list can go on and on, especially with all the unending amount of ”red pill” tradcon @ssclown phoneys living in their wife’s home.
That’s why as you said Derek that Brian Forbes AKA Jack Wayne is the biggest misrepresentative(or phoney as FB always says at Spawnys) ”leader” in the tradcon sphere ever!
The modern person is all about discovering your “authentic self.” But what they mean is institutionalized and systematized delusion.
It’s important to develop the skill to know who is being authentic and who is being fake. Many claim to be authentic, but are really fake and they project their fakeness onto others.
However, as I cite Bruce Charlton often, the vast majority of people have adopted dishonesty as a way of life, so it is hard not to assume that every last person and institution is dishonest. It’s just safer to assume.
I get frustrated when people just assume that I’m a liar and give me no charity, but I’m not surprised when they do it. Nor, I suppose, should I be angry with it. It’s something I’ve come to expect.
However, as I cite Bruce Charlton often, the vast majority of people have adopted dishonesty as a way of life, so it is hard not to assume that every last person and institution is dishonest. It’s just safer to assume.
I get frustrated when people just assume that I’m a liar and give me no charity, but I’m not surprised when they do it. Nor, I suppose, should I be angry with it. It’s something I’ve come to expect.
YEAH sort of like why tradcons ”overlook” it when ”St.”(he’s only a saint since he received full blessings for promoting sinning that they thought could help them trick MEN from DAL)Rollo says the same thing about them as non-St. GBFM.
Rollo Tomassi
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TradCons are feminists. They don’t care about men, they only care about what men can do for women. They just want to build better Betas.
{they’ll just say ”oh he means nasty ‘ole Mark Driscol,Gregoire & Wilson, not I who am”redpilled”!”
All posers, the lot of them. I’m the only one who has actually been sainted (following the proper procedures of an actual bonafide church). I speak with authority! 😉