This post is a follow-up to the series on patriarchy, headship, and submission. See this index.
In “The Context of Genesis 3:16” we discussed the evidence of headship in Ephesians 5 and 1 Peter by examining the claims of thedeti.
Rebuttal
After writing that post, thedeti replied with the following rebuttal:
— comment by thedeti @ SigmaFrame, “The Tennant Authority Structure”
First, thedeti cites the claim that women despise submission and asserts from this that it is evidence of the “curse of Eve” in Genesis 3:16. This type of reasoning is known as confirmation bias: “the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one’s existing beliefs or theories.” There are a variety of alternative explanations for women’s behavior. It is well worth noting again that even among people who share his conclusions there is not a uniformity of opinion on the meaning of Genesis 3:16.
Second, thedeti is imputing motives upon those he disagrees with. Of course he is able to make whatever claims he wants, but if and when they are shown to be untrue, it makes him a liar and only serves to hurt his claims. Peter commands both the submission of wives to imperfect husbands and the husbands to imperfect wives (in the same way as male/female slaves/masters). It is a logical contradiction to state that submission is distasteful because it means wives must submit to imperfect husbands while simultaneously arguing that wives must submit to imperfect husbands. Mutual submission opposes a strict hierarchical, unidirectional, non-mutual authority structure, not submission itself. Thedeti’s claim makes no sense. The most reasonable explanation for why anyone would hate non-mutual submission is because it isn’t biblical.
Third, the claim that mutual submission has nothing to do with the husband-wife relationship is simply incorrect, or at the very least debatable. This has been established in the last article, so I’ll merely summarize: Paul’s and Peter’s use of elided verbs, participles, connecting phrases, and synonyms militates strongly against thedeti’s claim that it has nothing to do with husband-wife relationship. Even if it isn’t equivalent in everything, it clearly has something to do with it, and we do right not to dismiss it.
Fourth, thedeti’s concept of submission conflicts with Peter’s. The reason men and women submit to their ungodly spouses has nothing to do with inherent authority. The reasons given for submission and humility are honor, holiness, sanctification, and glory. Paraphrased as evangelical language, it is to be a good witness.
Fifth, thedeti’s hermeneutical method discards Divine Command Theory, undermining his own position.
Divine Command Theory
Anabapatist Brother Lynn Martin has recently posted an important work in his ongoing discussion on the doctrine of nonresistance. In it, he explains what Divine Command Theory is:
— Lynn Martin @ Anabaptist Faith, “Divine Command Theory: What if Jesus didn’t really mean that?“
Unbelief
Some may find Divine Command Theory insufficient. Many dogmas steeped in traditions and experience—such as headship or the doctrines of Mary—cannot be easily forced upon scripture alone. For Roman Catholic John C. Wright, tradition is a necessary and obvious part of being a Christian. A hard hierarchy of leadership is required.
A Christian has to choose whether they accept the Word of God as it is—whether or not they understand it[1] or agree with it—or whether it is acceptable to decide when and where it doesn’t have to be followed and what can be added. It is not a matter of whether or not one can incorporate tradition into one’s religious practices. The church has long embraced various divergent traditions. It is whether or not those traditions rise to or above the commands of the divine. That is a matter of unbelief.
— comment by The Eye of Sauron, Sigma Frame, “The Tennant Authority Structure”
In the early church there was no need for a strict grammatical-historical hermeneutic method. They had “The Original Source Material.” The hearers and readers were natives who understood what was said about as readily as you can understand what anyone writes in your native language right now.
When Roman Catholicism was founded in the late-4th century, the words of Christ were almost as old as the words of Shakespeare are to us. It takes a truly special kind of person to understand Shakespeare untrained. I’ve never seen anyone complain that taking a course on Shakespeare may be required to understand what it means (“It’s not fair!”). Nor have I ever seen anyone argue that students shouldn’t have to think about what the language in Shakespeare’s plays mean in courses on Shakespeare. “Why shouldn’t the professor just tell us what it means so we don’t have to think about it?” Courses on Shakespeare are a lot of work for good reason.
Shakespeare was roughly 400 years ago. Another four times that long has past since the founding of Roman Catholicism, through countless subtle and non-subtle changes of language, culture, politics, and religious movements. The scriptures have been translated through one to three different languages since (along with numerous textual variants), to arrive at what we have now, with dozens of different translations available in English alone. Understanding what God wants for you can be challenging, and the reasons for this are obvious.
But the traditions themselves are subject to the same problems that Shakespeare is subject to. Traditions are built upon traditions are built upon traditions. Tradition is insufficient.
Dogmatism
The real issue is the elevation of tradition to dogma. There is nothing wrong with tradition, where it doesn’t conflict with scripture. But tradition is readily and easily raised to the level of dogma. In the case of Roman Catholicism, as shown in “No Early Evidence for Roman Catholic Doctrine“, this began in the late 4th century and has continued to this day. We can examine the historical record and see that the interpretation of Scripture changed.
Consider the belief that Christ was raised in fleshly form from the dead, from his own original body, and that this flesh ascended into heaven:
— Kakavelaki, “The Resurrected Body, Will it Be of Flesh or Spiritual”
The most impressive part about all this is that the original church was not all that concerned over it. They didn’t need to pour over source material or make novel arguments about it. It wasn’t until the introduction of a new tradition that everything became complicated. Now there were multiple competing views and detailed arguments over who was right and who was wrong. The fault lies squarely with those who pushed for new tradition and elevating it as dogma, those who, perhaps, rejected divine command theory.
A church that elevates tradition to the level of dogma is not automatically damned. But there are a number of denominations that have placed their idea of salvation on traditional, non-biblical views. These denominations are lost. They cannot be recovered and one should avoid these at any and all cost.
We can and must do as the Bereans did: examine the claims made and verify them against what the scriptures say.
Footnotes
[1] It is better to try and fail to understand the truth than to not try at all.
[2] See 1 Kings 13
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