Today we’re going to be talking about the motivations behind rape. This is an inflammatory and divisive topic for which I have no skin-in-the-game. There are many reasons to question official narratives, and this may be one of them. That in itself is reason to bring the topic up.
Reader discretion is strongly advised.
A Brief History Lesson
Susan Brownmiller is…
She wrote the book “Against Our Will” where she says that rape is:
According to Wikipedia, after spending time as an activist with the New York Radical Feminists, she spent four years researching the portrayal of rape in writings. Wikipedia describes her thesis:
“Rape culture” is a term that was invented in the 70s by members of the New York Radical Feminists.
Got that? Feminists invented the term “rape culture” to describe a supposed phenomenon of rape as being driven largely by men’s desire for control over women, not sexual gratification. This viewpoint is so common today, that even conservatives and Red Pill proponents promote it, despite it originating as a feminist talking point. I once had some Red Pill proponents tell me that Sodom and Gomorrah was about power dynamics, not sex.
This is where the idea of banning abortion as “controlling women’s bodies” comes from.
Very few have questioned this.
Back in 2020, Keith Entz (known as Sharkly in these parts) got into a tussle with Suzanne Titkemeyer over slut-shaming and rape.
Keith “Sharkly” Entz is busy saying lots of rather vile nasty things again about women who do not wear head coverings and show elbows and knees. In this time when we as women are calling out sexual abusers like the late Jeffery Epstein, Bill Cosby, and Dr. Larry Nasser while reclaiming our bodies, our sexuality, our clothing choices and everything else Keith is taking our actions as some sort of celebration of debauchery designed to take down his version of “Good Christian Man.” That guy who is not very good and not really much of a Christian either.
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Entz is deliberately misunderstanding what a ‘Slut Walk’ is. It evolved because of men like him, that think a sexual assault victim has no rights to claim assault if she was dressed in a fashion he considers revealing.
It’s the old “She asked for it” claim.
Well, how does Titkemeyer justify her claims? You got it, by using the feminist framed motivation for rape:
Can we really say that this is acceptable in a world where more stories come out daily about men who sexually abuse women and girls no matter what they are wearing? Statistic prove that revealing clothing has little to nothing to do with rape. Rape is a crime of violence perpetrated against women. It’s not about sex. Or lust.
For Titkemeyer, rape is about power, not sex.
Motivation for Rape
Titkemeyer spoke of statistics, but unsurprisingly she didn’t cite any. I found someone who did:
It turns out that if you ask male rapists what their reasons for rape are, it isn’t what the feminists claim. At best, a minority of men do so for reasons of power and control. By far the most common reason is sex. It really is about sex.
Oh, and remember that part about “She asked for it?” Feminists scoff at this, calling it victim blaming. But even if it is victim blaming 100% of the time, 77% of convicted rapists thought that the woman was, at least, partially responsible. That’s hardly what you would say if power dynamics were your primary motivation.
Meanwhile, a majority of convicted rapists cited arousal as a key contributing factor in their assault. At most one in ten are driven solely by power-dynamics. This statistic falsifies the feminist claim.
Per the Department of Justice (here; September 1997), the average age of a rape victim is 26.6, the median age is 23, and 91% are female.
So, according to the DoJ, the biggest risk factor for rape is being an attractive prime-aged young woman in her low-to-mid twenties.
If rape were about power dynamics, then there should be hardly any correlation with age (and attractiveness). But statistics show that the correlation between rape and attractiveness is extremely strong. This statistic falsifies the feminist claim.
Radical Feminism
Radical feminism is based on the premise that men are inherently evil and must be controlled. The feminist belief that rape is primarily a matter of control is projection. It is feminists who want to control men. Since the 60s and 70s, they’ve been largely successful at this.
Feminists have difficulty imagining a world where men are not primarily driven by the same strength of impulse to control women as is their impulse to control men. As is typical in cases of confirmation bias, feminists think that men have the same worldview as (feminist) women and so project their own limitations onto men.
Consider the situation of the “girlboss.” Men, by and large, do not want to be women. They are not jealous of women. They don’t want to share or take over feminine roles. There is no “boyboss” who becomes the hero by embracing femininity (unless you consider the massive proliferation of gay men in mass media and entertainment to be “boyboss” feminine heroes). The “girlboss” is an attempt to turn women into masculine heroes by giving them masculine traits (often through physical fighting prowess). The projection is one-way. Women envy men and masculinity, but men do not envy women and femininity.
This has been noted by females who successfully pass as male. Many find out quite quickly that being a male provides a host of disadvantages, such as being completely ignored by females (or having difficulty getting hired). For females who pass as males, this social isolation can be quite a shock after having been used to being a part of the female group dynamic.
Even in the case of transwomen, it is mostly women (especially mothers) who are trying to convince boys to become girls. But most trans are female-to-male. Transmen are a girlboss phenomenon. Just as there are more girlbosses than “boybosses” so too are there more transmen than transwomen. If you count children who merely identify differently, then this difference becomes even larger.
The point is that when feminists talk about the motivations of men, they are generally projecting their own motivation to control. This is precisely what is connoted by the trope that women are the “gatekeepers of sex.” Which sex is more likely to withhold physical intimacy in order to control one’s partner? That’s the one that is truly concerned with power.
Reader discretion is strongly advised.
As in if you’re not careful you might learn something.
A Brief History Lesson from GBFM and Wiki…
Yeah you know i like to go back to the origin or prehistory of things a lot.
As with this too:
The anti-rape movement is a sociopolitical movement[1] which is part of the movement seeking to combat violence against and the abuse of women.
The movement seeks to change community attitudes to violence against women, such as attitudes of entitlement to sex and victim blaming, and attitudes of women such as self-blame for violence. It seeks to promote changes to rape laws or laws of evidence which enable rapists to avoid penalties because, for example, victims are discouraged from reporting assaults, or because the rapist is entitled to immunity or because a rapist (as a defendant) is capable in law of denigrating the victim. The movement has been successful in jurisdictions, though many attitudes still persist, and despite changes to laws and significant increases in reporting of assaults, violence against women still persists at high levels.
The movement came about in the late 1960s and early 1970s, when new concepts of rape arose out of second wave feminism and the reevaluation of women’s daily lives socially and with regard to the social institutions with which they interact.
Prior to this reexamination, rape had been viewed as a “sex crime carried out by pathological men”,[2] who were unable to control their own sexual desires.[3] Feminists began to emphasize the role of power dynamics specifically with regard to the perpetration of rape as a crime committed primarily by men against women.[4] This revised definition of rape was reframed from the perspective of the victim. The act of rape was asserted to be a way in which societal gender roles, the way someone acts out either masculinity or femininity, were enforced and the hierarchy of power placing males above females was maintained.[3] Rape was thus defined as a form of violence used to ensure male power, a form of social control over women and children.[5] Known as the “anti-rape” or “rape prevention” movement,[6] it was founded with the conceptions that sexual violence and violence against women more generally, is a tool of social control used to keep women in a subordinate position to men and that women need to take action, that aids victims of sexual violence to become “survivors” of violence instead of victims.[3] The anti-rape movement continues, with growing awareness in the United States public about the concept of rape culture, coinciding with the increasing popularity of feminism. This revised definition of rape was reframed from the perspective of the victim. The act of rape was asserted to be a way in which societal gender roles, the way someone acts out either masculinity or femininity, were enforced and the hierarchy of power placing males above females was maintained.[3] Rape was thus defined as a form of violence used to ensure male power, a form of social control over women and children.[5] Known as the “anti-rape” or “rape prevention” movement,[6] it was founded with the conceptions that sexual violence and violence against women more generally, is a tool of social control used to keep women in a subordinate position to men and that women need to take action, that aids victims of sexual violence to become “survivors” of violence instead of victims.[3] The anti-rape movement continues, with growing awareness in the United States public about the concept of rape culture, coinciding with the increasing popularity of feminism.
The whole point of “Me Too” was to presume—without proof—that all rape allegations made by women are true. This is an implicit acknowledgment that women should be in control when there is a conflict between a man and woman. It’s rather plainly a power play not premised on the rightness or wrongness of the allegations.
On college campuses, many male students have been expelled without due process over mere accusations. It has gotten so bad, that after a night together, sometimes the male will claim that she abused him in order to preempt her from accusing him of misconduct.
Such is the fruit of female power plays.
What I don’t understand is why The Red Pill has bought into the feminist framing.
i remember the original version of “Me Too” was when companies made clones of successful games by implying “Me Too!” This is more than likely the reason for the latter-day highly failurous ”red pill” buying into feminist framing-thinking it will get all the cad dads & few remaining husbands to buy into it like they did full-fledged feminism.
https://www.reddit.com/r/patientgamers/comments/15zdcs7/clone_games_that_out_did_the_orignal/
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Clone games that out did the orignal
I just watched a video by Gameranx talking about game clones that were atrocious, absolutely awful games trying to just cash in on the amazing success of games like GTA and god of war , and it got me thinking , what are some game clones that Were better than the original, The first example that jumped into mind was HollowKnight -I do not know if this will be a hottake – but i really think hollow knight out did castlevaina, I know HK is not a clone game but i think it says a lot that it is better than the game the genre was named after, Another controversial one is how lots of people think Path of exile was better than diablo ( i do not agree) , Also i read somwhere that the creater of mine craft said that it was inspired by another game( i cannot recall its name) I am curious what is the game that inspired the most selling game ever made, Another one i love was how saints row was IMO better than GTA 3 , despite GTA 3 not being a bad game by any means, and of course everyone’s favorite: ghost of tsushima is everything i wanted assasin’s creed to be .
What other games can you think off that outdid the game that inspired them?
I found another post here about a similar topic, but it was 7 year ago and i sadly do not recognize most of the games mentioned there.
Edit : let’s change clone to “ spiritual successor “ , it is a more polite term
yeah, the latter day ”red pill” is the “ spiritual successor “ to feminism see that will help clean up its image in marketing/courting to blackpillers😉
Someone call up Brian/Jack and tell him to market/court to blackpillers harder!!😉
thedeti says:
30 October, 2024 at 2:41 pm
Came here to say what everyone else said. I see you all have this power dynamics and me tooszing well in hand.
thedeti says:
30 October, 2024 at 2:52 pm
Here’s the other thing
Not only are these men unattractive and these women don’t want them:
–there is literally nothing these men can do, nothing they ever could do, to become sufficiently attractive to these women
–these women will never, ever want these men no matter what happens, short of total cataclysmic worldwide societal/economic collapse into total chaos where accepting one of these men is literally a matter of life and death
–earning money doesn’t count. “Economic attractiveness” doesn’t count
–expecting men to accept women who don’t want them is a nonstarter or non yanker and cranker to the faux MANZ MANZ out there
thedeti says:
30 October, 2024 at 2:56 pm
Women won’t go all the way there and say the above, because it makes them look bad.
Men pointing this out to women (“you won’t accept these men because you’re not attracted to them”) makes them feel bad.
Women don’t want to say things that make them look bad. Women don’t want to expose themselves to truth, because then men will point it out to them, and then they’ll feel bad. Which is worse than looking bad.
It is current American social and legal policy that we must never do or say anything that might make women(or their worshippers) feel bad like you are not a delicate little flower but a d@mn born sinnersz.
Think about that – all of American social, legal, economic, and domestic policy, has been formulated and implemented to help women not feel bad. You’re being spent into bankruptcy to help women you’ll never fux not feel bad.
Like when Parents, Boyfriends, and Husbands go to the police to get their womensz to cry rape to land some poor sucka MENZ in jail to not make them feelszfeelsz badsz that the womensz was gonna s*x up some dude that doesn’t worship her like themsz do.
I found it odd when for decades….actresses who won a Oscar at the podium always thanked “Harvey Weinstein” in their acceptance speeches.
And…poof….like in novel “1984” Harvey Weinstein became a non-person.
Nobody speaks of him now. He never existed. Nobody talks about him. “Me Too” had nothing to do with him, Me Too was about “creepy” guys harassing women and stalking them and committing sexual crimes against them!
It laso has pretty much became “buyer didnt meet expectations” now. A woman has a hook-up. Dude uses her, ghosts her…….suddenly it was indeed a crime!
Per usual, by Red Pill……………….women have zero agency or responsibility. They cannot help what they do, they cannot control themselves. So, I partially blame Red Pill for “me too” for the fact most of these men cannot keep it zipped up to begin with