If there is one thing I do, it’s write about fringe topics that no one is asking me to write about. I tend to think about and draw conclusions about things that no one else is pondering. This post is no different. Sorry if you were hoping for different!
From time-to-time I’ve been visiting the discussion on abstractions. I last wrote about it in “Hebrew Abstractions” last year. I also like to write about intelligence from time-to-time. Today these topics intersect.
It is well known that Ashkenazi Jews have one of the highest population intelligences. What is less well-known is that this high intelligence is distributed unevenly. The average Ashkenazi Jew has above average verbal intelligence and below average on the various non-verbal intelligences, although they tend to be good with mathematics. The consequence is that Jews are overrepresented in pure Wordcel professions involving leadership and management, but are also found in pure math-heavy professions (like finance). It’s also why you find a lot of Jewish lawyers. By contrast, they are underrepresented in pure Shape Rotator professions like engineering. You can read more about that here.
In my post, “Hebrew Abstraction,” I discussed Thorleif Boman’s (and Ed Hurst’s) portrayal of the ancient Hebrews as concrete thinkers who didn’t think in abstractions. At the time I said:
This illustration does not portray Israelites as some sort of superior spiritual mystic, but as intellectual idiots who are not intelligent enough to think in basic abstractions. Just because the Israelites had a preferred way of thinking and writing didn’t mean they were buffoons who couldn’t understand abstract categorization. Because that’s what Boman is literally saying: that the Israelites did not understand Greek categorization.
Originally I meant this to highlight the absurdity of Boman’s thesis. I, of course, didn’t think ancient Hebrews were intellectual idiots. But, it wasn’t until I was reading about the intelligence of Ashkenazi Jews recently that I realized that there is more to the story that I had originally assumed. The ancient Hebrews most certainly engaged in abstract thinking, as I argued, but they did so relatively, according to their intelligence. In particular, they strongly preferred verbal abstractions and strongly shunned certain non-verbal abstractions.
See, with respect to intelligence, most people do what they are best at and avoid areas where they are weak. For example, I have strong spike skills in visual-spatial and reasoning, decent verbal skills, and I’m relatively quite poor at processing speed and don’t have the greatest working memory. I’m a slow thinker and I need notes. It’s why I generally stick to well-composed, long-form writing and not live debates. It’s also why I’m into photography. I’m playing to my strengths and avoiding my weaknesses. Consequently, most people only see one side of me, likely leading people to have a false impression of my skills and abilities.
The Hebrews likely did the same thing. We don’t even have to guess: we can tell from their writings.
You must not have any other gods besides me. Do not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; do not bow down to them and do not serve them because I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing covenant faithfulness to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
For many centuries, there was a strong aversion among the Hebrews to making visual abstractions. Hebrews largely did not make visual art. They did not make paintings and they did not make statues. They understood the Second Commandment quite literally to refer to created things: things made by human hands. Wikipedia confirms:
In the Second Temple period, Jewish art was heavily influenced by the Biblical injunction against graven images, leading to a focus on geometric, floral, and architectural motifs rather than figurative or symbolic representations. This artistic restraint was a response to the Hellenistic cultural pressures that threatened Jewish religious practices, notably the imposition of idolatry. Symbolic elements like the menorah and the shewbread table were sparingly used, primarily reflecting their significance in priestly duties.
In particular, Jews largely did not embrace such abstractions until much later when Roman and Christian influence started to change them.
However, the rise of Christianity and its establishment as the dominant religion of the Roman Empire marked a turning point in Jewish artistic expression. This period, known as Late Antiquity, witnessed Jewish communities gradually incorporating symbolic motifs into their synagogal and funerary art.
It’s not that the Jews were incapable of making physical art, but that they chose not to for religious reasons.
Now, let’s consider the key to unlocking our understanding: the Jews did not, for example, consider fame or glory to be idolatry. This is common in Western Christian writings, but it’s absent from ancient Hebrew writings. In the Old Testament, all idols were physical abstractions of the God they represented. All were absolutely forbidden. Every instance of idolatry in the Old Testament refers to worship of physical things! Jesus changed all of that with his abstract emphasis on the heart. After all, fame and glory can be idols just as much as wood carvings. Both are abstractions, but the latter is a visual-spatial abstraction.
Jesus didn’t have a preference for one abstraction over another. He didn’t pit them against each other. Jesus didn’t overturn the Hebrew way of thought. Physical idols are still illicit manifestations. But, so is worshiping money, a concept that isn’t incompatible with Greek ways of thinking. Jesus also routinely used figures-of-speech that his Greek-influenced listeners understood too literally (just like with the 3rd and 4th generation vs. thousandth generation). Paul, a Roman citizen, used a number of non-Hebrew abstractions imported from the Greeks and Romans (e.g. the Armor of Faith; describing the body of Christ through the lens of Roman adoption).
Most people viscerally understand visual-spatial abstractions: that visible figures and signs in space can abstractly represent something else. This may be something as complicated as artistic expression or it might be something as simple as the shape of a stop sign. We have whole museums dedicated to this kind of abstraction. It is easier to appreciate an abstraction when you can see with your eyes. But, men like Boman have noticed that the ancient Hebrews tended to avoid these kinds of abstractions. It is even codified it in their law. So Boman concluded, quite incorrectly, that Hebrews didn’t think abstractly. But, as shown above, even in the law that banned idolatrous abstractions contains an important verbal abstraction.
Boman, a prolific writer, was almost certainly a Wordcel, someone gifted with high verbal ability. If he was like your typical Ashkenazi Jew, he would have had a natural preference for verbal abstractions and a natural avoidance of visual-spatial abstraction. This would lead him to write about the linguistics of an ancient people, and enjoy doing it. Furthermore, he was also an editor (like our friend Bruce Charlton, who is well-known to have a very strong verbal ability and preference). His own preferences—his bias—caused him to completely miss the types of abstractions that the Hebrews preferred. If you are one of those people that shun Greek philosophy, it’s easy to fall into this trap.
The fact is, it is laughable for anyone who has studied Hebrew or read the Old Testament to claim that the ancient Hebrews did not think using abstractions. Except Wordcels like Boman (and many others) make this claim, and often at that! What gives? Well, it’s a simple fact that they don’t recognize the greatest form of abstraction that exists: figures of speech. The Bible is riddled with figurative language. It’s in everything from the individual words to complex linguistic structures (like the chiastic structure). It is true that, unlike the Greeks, the Ancient Hebrews did not get on much with logical and philosophical abstractions. Rather, they much preferred verbal abstractions.
Speaking of verbal abstractions…
Do not bow down to them and do not serve them because I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing covenant faithfulness to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
…this is the perfect example. You might be tempted to try to figure out what happens if the 137th generation out of the thousand turns against God. Are they and their third and fourth generations cursed by God or are they still blessed as part of the thousand? Viewing this as an error—a logical contradiction—is, of course, incorrectly trying to quantify the verbal abstraction strictly literally.
It is obviously not the case that Greeks were abstract thinkers and Hebrews were concrete literalists. The Second Commandment proves this. They just preferred different kinds of abstractions. Hellenistic thought is, in general, a bit more focused on visual-spatial (and logical) type abstractions. This is one reason why Western man has so much difficult with taking the copious figurative language of scripture too literally. Thus, we can contrast Hebrew and Hellenistic thought as largely being a general population preference for one type of abstraction over another.
Over many centuries, the Jews cultivated a breeding environment that strongly favored and selected for verbal expression (and associated skills) over other abilities, by as much as a full standard deviation on average. Due, in part, to strong in-group preferences among ethnic Jews, this has continued for thousands of years into the present. Most of the memes about Jews running all the corporations, owning all the banks, or dominating the practice of law can be traced to their population preferences for a certain kind of intelligence going back thousands of years. People naturally prefer to do what they are best at doing, while avoiding whatever they are not as good at.
Jews have also cultivated a strong skill for mathematical abstraction. The funny thing is, like abstract verbal reasoning and figures of speech, people don’t readily think of math as an abstraction. A statue of a person is obviously an abstraction of a real person, but people don’t think of numbers, mathematical operations, and logical thinking as abstractions, even though that is exactly what they are. This has only further fed into the idea that Hebrews didn’t think abstractly. History records Jews being disproportionately impactful in the realm of abstract finances: interest, fractional reserve, contracts, credit, exchange, land ownership, banking mechanisms, stocks, etc. But who even thinks of a bank or a dollar bill as an abstraction?
Now, let’s turn back the clock and read this comment again:
The whole point is the purpose of the thing made, not some abstract idea regarding its form. Boman takes us back to the disagreement between Greek and Hebrew thinking on this issue. To the Greeks, a cooking pot is the basic idea, the material is a separate matter. To the Hebrew, the material defines how the cooking pot can be used, so that each pot of different materials is a different idea. There is no abstract concept of cooking pot; they need to know what the material was or it has no useful meaning.
Do you see that part about Hebrews avoiding abstractions “regarding its form.” It’s not that the Hebrews didn’t use abstract ideas, it is merely the fact that they had a preference for one type of abstraction over another. And it was just a preference, not a strict rule. Hebrews were absolutely capable of all types of abstraction. As I noted in my previous article, scripture itself contains a fantastic example of the abstract concept of a cooking pot in Hebrew. Hurst and Boman are simply wrong on this point. The Hebrews—in keeping with their strong verbal abilities—had many different words for pots carrying a wide array of forms and meanings, both concrete and abstract.
The Hebrews were strong abstract thinkers, but they drew cultural and religious lines regarding which types of abstractions were acceptable and which were not. This preference is absolutely in line with everything we know about their population intelligence. As a group, they selected for this! I find that very interesting.
This is where I just get lost and understand that my intelligence isnt enough to grasp concepts like this.
This is where I question if I am “saved” or “know enough” or am “good enough” to be a Christian. This is where indeed this faith is a “turn off” for many because they dont know the history of this or that Jewish group in the context of history, v figurative language v IQ v if Jews are good lawyers v engineering.
If its all “predestined” and “God chose this group to be smart” and “chose this group to dig ditches” and that group to “lord it over the rest of us with who cant reach / breach or understand concepts”
Well………it is indeed a faith for the “elect” or “racially superior” or those “God chose to give a high IQ to undesrtand his deeper concepts”
Which leaves just about everyone else out.
IDK. Not trying to flame or argue. Jesus said he would use the foolish to shame the wise. He used fisherman who were prayed up, believed and turned the world upside down. The pagans, the rich, the poor…the stifling intellectualism of Athens in its day were brought to Christ through very prayed up men who trusted, believed.
If God wanted this elite, schooled and educated class to bring the message, well, He would have just convinced the priestly class and kings and leaders to do it.
Maybe Im off here…..and if I am, would not surprise me. This is over my head.
But
If being a Christian entails all of this stuff and on top of the slop of “real masculinity / red pill” to be considered “worthy” of heaven.
Well…..I can understand why the church is dwindling.
If Gods plan for reconciliation to and through Him was indeed to be in this
Lastmod,
It doesn’t.
None of what I’m saying pertains to salvation. It is only, at best, peripheral to Christianity. If anything, it is a warning to avoid Radix Fidem’s approach: turning philosophy into a fundamental and essential spiritual matter. All I’ve done is refute that idea.
You are free to ignore these issues.
He does. The wise thought that the only idols were those made by human hands. But Jesus expanded this idea to focus on matters of the heart. And that, I know for a fact, is something you do understand. You may not know if statues of Mary or communion bread are idolatry, but you understand what constitutes idolatry of the heart. In that way, you are well ahead of the curve.
It seems to me that the church is dwindling because it does not truly want what Jesus came to offer. Being a Social Club is just not enough to hold it together.
Peace,
DR
Appreciate your reply Derek. Will elaborate more at a future date! 🙂
Boman, a prolific writer, was almost certainly a Wordcel, someone gifted with high verbal ability. If he was like your typical Ashkenazi Jew, he would have had a natural preference for verbal abstractions and a natural avoidance of visual-spatial abstraction. This would lead him to write about the linguistics of an ancient people, and enjoy doing it. Furthermore, he was also an editor (like our friend Bruce Charlton, who is well-known to have a very strong verbal ability and preference). His own preferences—his bias—caused him to completely miss the types of abstractions that the Hebrews preferred.
Speaking of Bruce Charlton,here’s a late ROISSY abstractions post discussing one of Charlton’s post’s on IQ.
https://heartiste.org/2017/02/21/the-stupidity-of-intelligence-signaling/
The Stupidity Of Intelligence Signaling
Feb 21st, 2017 by CH
This is great article by Bruce Charlton, a must-read, because it explains so much about post-America s#itlibbery. (For a complementary thread on the topic, try here.)
Executive Summary: what liberals have in IQ they lack in common sense. It’s an evolutionary trade-off.
In short, it has often been observed that high IQ types are lacking in ‘common sense’ – and especially when it comes to dealing with other human beings. General intelligence is not just a cognitive ability; it is also a cognitive disposition. So, the greater cognitive abilities of higher IQ tend also to be accompanied by a distinctive high IQ personality type including the trait of ‘Openness to experience’, ‘enlightened’ or progressive left-wing political values, and atheism. Drawing on the ideas of Kanazawa, my suggested explanation for this association between intelligence and personality is that an increasing relative level of IQ brings with it a tendency differentially to over-use general intelligence in problem-solving, and to over-ride those instinctive and spontaneous forms of evolved behaviour which could be termed common sense. Preferential use of abstract analysis is often useful when dealing with the many evolutionary novelties to be found in modernizing societies; but is not usually useful for dealing with social and psychological problems for which humans have evolved ‘domain-specific’ adaptive behaviours. And since evolved common sense usually produces the right answers in the social domain; this implies that, when it comes to solving social problems, the most intelligent people are more likely than those of average intelligence to have novel but silly ideas, and therefore to believe and behave maladaptively. I further suggest that this random silliness of the most intelligent people may be amplified to generate systematic wrongness when intellectuals are in addition ‘advertising’ their own high intelligence in the evolutionarily novel context of a modern IQ meritocracy. The cognitively-stratified context of communicating almost-exclusively with others of similar intelligence, generates opinions and behaviours among the highest IQ people which are not just lacking in common sense but perversely wrong. Hence the phenomenon of ‘political correctness’ (PC); whereby false and foolish ideas have come to dominate, and moralistically be enforced upon, the ruling elites of whole nations.
That description sounds precisely like the basis for the cognitive and social schisms currently tearing apart Western nations. Self-segregating and supercharged-signaling “clever sillies” are running their homelands into the ground with overbearing government interventions to “close the gap” and open borders to “create more gaps”. This stupidity of intelligence signaling would be funny if it weren’t also so damned threatening to the continued survival of the West.
The over-use of abstract reasoning may be most obvious in the social domain, where normal humans are richly equipped with evolved psychological mechanisms both for here-and-now interactions (e.g. rapidly reading emotions from facial expression, gesture and posture, and speech intonation) and for ‘strategic’ modelling of social interactions to understand predict and manipulate the behaviour of others. Social strategies deploy inferred knowledge about the dispositions, motivations and intentions of others. When the most intelligent people over-ride the social intelligence systems and apply generic, abstract and systematic reasoning of the kind which is enhanced among higher IQ people, they are ignoring an ‘expert system’ in favour of a non-expert system.
For an immediately palpable example of SMRT s#itlibs applying abstract and systematic reasoning to a social intelligence system, see their snarky “you’re more likely to be killed by falling furniture than by a Muslim terrorist” apples-to-oranges comparison. (Socially intelligent reply: “Sure but falling furniture isn’t getting on planes with me, patting me down after a two hour wait in the TSA line, or calling for death to all infidels.”)
Charlton goes on to explain why it seems like we are seeing more pajamaboy s#itlib faces and cuckfaces in the West:
Indeed, I suggest that higher levels of the personality trait of Openness in higher IQ people may be the flip-side of this over-use of abstraction. I regard Openness as the result of deploying abstract analysis for social problems to yield unstable and unpredictable results, when innate social intelligence would tend to yield predictable and stable results. This might plausibly underlie the tendency of the most intelligent people in modernizing societies to hold ‘left-wing’ political views.
I would argue that neophilia (or novelty-seeking) is a driving attribute of the personality trait of Openness; and a disposition common in adolescents and immature adults who display what I have termed ‘psychological neoteny’.
Psychological neoteny is likely correlated, by the associative property, with physical and facial neoteny. Physiognomy is real, and it’s no accident that we often observe the silliest of shitlibs have very punchable faces devoid of any masculinity.
Shitlibs are, in essence, arrested adolescents, forever on the hunt for the next thrill to add meaning to their disconnected lives. Risk-taking and novelty-seeking are useful traits to have when one must impress a mate (usually a man impressing a girl) or broaden the pool of acceptable mates; but those traits are destructive when scaled up to the level of social policy and beyond the bounds of the life stage when mate acquisition is paramount.
In such an evolutionarily-unprecedented, artificial ‘hothouse’ environment, it is plausible that any IQ-related behaviours are amplified: partly because there is little counter-pressure from the less intelligent people with less neophiliac personalities, and perhaps mainly because there is a great deal of IQ-advertisement. Indeed, it looks very much as if the elites of modern societies are characterized by considerable IQ-signalling. Sometimes this is direct advertisement (e.g. when boasting about intellectual attainments or attendance at highly-selective colleges) and more often the signalling is subtly-indirect when people display the attitudes, beliefs, fashions, manners and hobbies associated with high intelligence. This advertising is probably based on sexual selection, if IQ has been a measure of general fitness during human evolutionary history, and was associated with a wide range of adaptive traits.
But we are now at the point when the libshit SMRT mate signaling has reached sexual market saturation; I predict, and in fact we can see it happening already, that deftly counter-signaling the leftoid equalism orthodoxy will be a powerful display of fitness, for what do women love more than a bad boy rule-breaker who can buck the system and not just survive, but thrive? As always, BALLS wins babes.
My hunch is that it is this kind of IQ-advertisement which has led to the most intelligent people in modern societies having ideas about social phenomena that are not just randomly incorrect (due to inappropriately misapplying abstract analysis) but are systematically wrong. I am talking of the phenomenon known as political correctness (PC) in which foolish and false ideas have become moralistically-enforced among the ruling intellectual elite. And these ideas have invaded academic, political and social discourse. Because while the stereotypical nutty professor in the hard sciences is a brilliant scientist but silly about everything else; the stereotypical nutty professor social scientist or humanities professor is not just silly about ‘everything else’, but also silly in their professional work.
I was convinced before reading this Charlton hypothesis that what’s happening in the AngloGermanoSphere is runaway “intelligence signaling”; that is, aesthetically disfigured and socially untethered White shitlibs of the West can only pride themselves on their abstraction smarts, and to stay ahead of their peers they have to signal hard against common sense, leading to xenophilia spirals (as well as degeneracy spirals and anti-White spirals).
(As a reader wrote, “Believing in a lie can require more intelligence; you have to know the truth to conceal it properly, plus the pleasing lie, plus the explanation why the lie is more true than the truth.”)
What’s happened is that common sense (or gut instinct, or mental sanity) has become associated with declassé opinions and flyover rubes. The cause of this association is complex, but it’s where we are today and it means that the shitlib clown-cognition signaling will continue until a cataclysm forces common sense on them. I doubt that increasingly insulated, credentialist suck-up shitlibs will rediscover the merits of common sense on their own.
Addendum: the Maul-Right is the next stage of human evolution: high IQ AND common sense. And that fact, more than any other, explains the hysterical response of the Left to dissident crimethinkers and to Trump; the Left knows a real threat to their rule when they see one.
See how ROISSY must have been a wordcel too?
& it seems our friend MOD was going by the user name tomjones(for obvious reasons,for those in the know😉) @ the CHATEAU’s comment section back then too😉😊😎😇
tomjones on February 21, 2017 at 12:34 pm
what good is IQ without self-awareness? without courage? without a sense of morality? empathy? what about spatial awareness? skill with tools, etc…? shouldn’t those qualities be included, also?
what good is IQ? Not at all.
Well at least here, I understand my words will not be twisted and my comments spliced or “modified for clarity” and then henpecked to oblivion.
I do understand what Jesus said. I do believe. The problem still lies in the complex.
“Trust. Believe” v the “In the 2nd century BC, the prophet made this into the reference of what this king said and if you look at the language and study it in Greek this word means this, and during the wars, and then what the next four kings did and what the cultural norms of wht the priests said to this group while in Babylon during the exile…its crystal clear! This word doesnt mean what you think it means (despite it being in The Bible). Then Paul, who had divine inspiration….and said this, but it really means this if you look at the text from this translation. Not forgetting what happened in 70AD and it was meant for that time, but its revelant but…………..”
Over the top, but you get what I mean.
The average rank and file man of Jerusalem at the time of Jesus didnt have access to the “temple library” to read, ponder and study “the things of God”
That man was too busy working because he and his family would starve if he didnt. The message of Jesus spoke to these men. The intellectual class of his day (the priests, teachers of The Law, the scribes, the bureaucratic class for the temple / administration of the provincial government) hated the message of Jesus, not because they thought He was stupid or ignorant but the Truth was easy enough for the fisherman, the builder, the sheep herder, the slave, and women (gasp) to understand.
This “intellectual” class hated Him for it.
To them, God was something the low IQ masses could not understand without them. Big words, loud prayers, rich robes, stifling intellect. God could be understood by them, and them alone.
No different today. When many a pastor / priest (especially in these so called Red Pill faiths / denoms) is asked “Do you know God?”
Their reply is a slightly arrogant tone of “I studied Greek / well, I learned Hebrew at age six / I went to this Seminary. I studied under a man who was so smart you see / my pastor was an Alpha and rode a motorcycle / The Priest at my Orthodox church follows traditions that go back TO Jesus directly” (reciting prayers to a painted piece of wood with a ‘saint’ on it….hmmmm)
We perhaps…even the above mentioned KNOW of the THINGS of God, but I doubt most know Him.
The curtain was torn evidently in the holiest place when Jesus was crucified, removing the “mystical” between God and man. Yes, that would include women too. The removal of the “separation” requiring a “ritual” to speak to God, or indeed….know Him.
Todays Christian world to me….overall……….the leadership. This includes the “cucked” ones to Orthodoxy (which evidently is the only real, manly church left…….read the letter that Orthodox Priest wrote about whats happening with ICE in MN. He’s about as blue-pilled as the local Methodist female Reverend)
Jesus torn that wall down. Ripped that curtain. That separation. Since that day, men have been running to the tent-maker to stitch it back up and “restore” their diminished, over inflated role.
I think this is where the “intellectualism” of our so called “very easy to understand and simple faith” keeps people away. Maybe it should 😉
Hey MOD!
FB=FarmBoy(from Dalrock & Spawnyspace of course)doesn’t fully believe this Catholic Polish gal in Poland hasn’t had even one=1 relationship in 25.6 years.
https://x.com/anniee_0216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1817950850330792115%7Ctwgr%5E174de225e27e10e00e9f93b28482dd3bb03a8985%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fspawnyspace.wordpress.com%2F2026%2F02%2F03%2Fhate-her-guts%2F
Farm Boy says:
3 February, 2026 at 5:57 pm
I might be more inclined to believe the Catholic gal if her Twitter wasn’t so popular. And if it wasn’t all about her in front of an audience.
Maybe it started small and authentic, but as it got larger, it became about something else.
As far as I can tell, she is in Poland. So she tweets in English. That is a way to maximize your audience
Farm Boy says:
3 February, 2026 at 5:58 pm
So she can’t find somebody. What do you think is going on?
surfdumb says:
3 February, 2026 at 6:06 pm
Western decadence. Sad to see Polish girls as mean and stupid as ours.
Farm Boy says:
3 February, 2026 at 6:10 pm
Poland may soon eclipse Germany as an economic power.
I am sure that there are memories about what happened 80 some years ago
MORE Anonymous Commenter advice for women & NEVER in a relationship=butthex situation Catholic Polish gals from poland.
Anonymous Commenter(formerly known as the muscle car building lawyer of the midwest theDetster) says:
3 February, 2026 at 7:12 pm
Women: This is not difficult. Pick some guys you’re attracted to( &WILL LET THEM WORK ON THEIR 60S/70S MUSCLE CARS IN PEACE while they enjoy lots of other masculine hobbies like jet skiing,reading LEADERSHIP GAME red lettered DAL’ signed Scripture & B-BOYING to those 80s style beats from dat boombox lasses and lads) and like and you think might make good long term LEADER-type,GRABBEM BY THE POON MISSION -oriented guys. Run them past your father, uncles, and older brothers. Show them some interest. See who might be interested in you. Pick one of them. Latch on for life while suxing & fuxing good gawd y’all.
Here’s the rub: you have to do some work. You have to take some risks. You have to risk getting rejected. You might have to make some adjustments.
You don’t have lots of long term options. Most of the options you do have are for quick sex while B-BOYING. It is what it is. Most of the men who will be stepping to you directly will be looking for rapid MASCULINE YET SANCTYFING FEMININE sex. Men do that because it gets results LIKE A V8 OR 12 MOTOR IN A MUSCLE CAR THEY BE GETTING JIGGY WIT, It works. It gets them what they want.
So you will have to do some work and some filtering and you’ll have to take some risks here. You’ll also need to make it clear what these men will be getting if you pick them and they get into a long term relationship with you. What do you offer? What do you bring to the table? What will they get? What do want from them? What will they get in exchange for what you’re demanding from them? (Hint: They want you. Your body. For s*x. That’s what they want, eventually. Are you willing to give it to them, eventually? Because that’s what’s really going on here.)
Do the work. Take the risks. Determine what you’re offering and offer it up while suxing & fuxing good gawd y’all .
Farm BoyINTJX (Y’ALL SUPPORT YOUR B-BOYING FARM BOY)says:
3 February, 2026 at 8:12 pm
Why would she be anxious. All she has to do is be. And to be gracious will all comers.
Way more easy than for a fella
locustsplease says:
3 February, 2026 at 8:16 pm
I went to highschool with a girl nice figure blonde hair maybe not the prettiest but not unattractive face. Total hoe yet loved B-BOYING CLASSIC MUSCLE CAR FIXIN’ ON THE WEEKEND WIT,reading LEADERSHIP GAME red lettered Scripture EVERY LAWD’S DAY Y’ALL!. Tried to sleep with everyone and I graduated with 900 people. Had girlfriends. Tried to sleep with me for years WHILE WATCHIN’ ME GIT JIGGY WIT IT. I declined. Out of highschool she became a stripper at the full nude club out of town. We saw her all the time. I wouldnt say I didn’t like her but she said I was a jerk that worked on classic 60s/70s muscle cars on the weekend while reading LEADERSHIP GAME red lettered DAL’ signed Scripture EVERY LAWD’S DAY Y’ALL!.
Even she doesn’t have a thug spawn she now has 3 kids under teenager a normal height husband not some monster and living a middle class life you would never know!
How big of hoes are these ones who have thug spawn. From what ive seen they have 200+ body counts in highschool. Thats why I got no time for their stories. These girls on of the reality is they are full time prostitutes and thats advertising.
Farm BoyINTJX(Y’ALL SUPPORT YOUR B-BOYING FARM BOY) says:
3 February, 2026 at 8:19 pm
You may need to know their stories for the times that you are forced to deal with them
Anonymous Commenter(formerly known as the 60S/70S muscle car building lawyer of the midwest theDetster) says:
3 February, 2026 at 8:34 pm
Most hoes I’ve known from high school did OK. Even the ones who married young to their high school boyfriends and then divorced. They remarried to workhorse betas who were happy just to get some pussy, any pussy. They slavedrive their men and, I’m sure, dollop out just enough pussy to keep those men grinding it out.
Or, they stayed married to their high school boyfriends despite the problem drinking and the nights out with the boys and the questions about what or who they were doing….
Or they stayed divorced and became little bossbitches, making great money and having lots of fun. Again, despite the problem drinking and maybe some drug use, with some bankruptcies in there.
They all did OK for themselves, no matter what they did or who they ended up with(I’m even talkin’ non- classic 60s/70s muscle cars on the weekend while reading LEADERSHIP GAME red lettered DAL’ signed Scripture EVERY LAWD’S DAY Y’ALL!.).
They always landed on their feet. They always did OK. They always got what they needed. Remember the law of female existence: If you’re female, no matter what happens, from cradle to grave, some ”redpill” yenta ” man” or group of ”redpill” yenta ”men” somewhere will always make sure you get what you need & drive most MEN FULL ”BURN IT ALL DOWN” ”BLACKPILL” GOOD GAWD Y’ALL!.
Half-Polish by my late father.
According to the Dalrock wisdom of his infallible commenters:
Polish women are HOT, sexy, feminine, just-want-to-be-a-wife, in shape, perfect looking but the problem?
Its all the Beta Polish men who are not “masculine” and living at home, drinking vodka all day. These men are “genetically” Beta and that is why they get so sexually driven by all the real American and British men who come there for the sex trade / party scene. If only Polish men were just more “masculine”
Mind you. Beta Poland began the strikes in the early 1980’s at Gdansk which led to the fall of Communism in the end. These Beta Polish men, many today are still very devout Catholics (a very Beta faith evidently).
Poland seems to be one of the few countries in Europe that has indeed told the EU “no!” on third world immigration. These men believe and know that their culture and history is worth fighting for and saving…
But so hopelessly Beta.
The women (the pretty ones) are infected by many trappings of “western decadance” and mind you Roosh was one who helped usher this in “Bang Poland” and mentioned how “easy” the girls were. yes, I read it.
So, for all this “beta” Polish Man thing and bashing at Dalrock and other sites……….look who is the real Betas. Sex craved men from Britain, the US, Canada and other parts of Europe.
But……she’s hot so that makes her feminine and wife worthy.
As if
”According to the Dalrock wisdom of his infallible commenters:”
The main thing i’ve liked about Anonymous Commenter(formerly known as the 60S/70S muscle car building lawyer of the midwest theDetster),Scott & Dalrock himself over the last nearly 14 years ever since i first read a post (which was this FOLLOWING one : https://theredarchive.com/blog/Dalrock/warn-men-beware-christian-marriage-doublespeak-and.12193
Warn men: Beware Christian marriage doublespeak and hair trigger for wife initiated divorce.
Dalrock
November 8, 2011
Dalrock
This issue is so important I’m asking my readers and other bloggers to do whatever they can to help spread the word and protect men and their future children. Any blogger who wishes to is free to repost this entry in part or its entirety on their own blog with a link back to this page. Literally millions of men are at risk here, and we can help them understand the reality they face.
One of the more dangerous assumptions I see men making is that if they marry a Christian woman they will be somehow shielded from the epidemic of divorce. I’ve stated in the past that most churches talk like Christ but act like Oprah on the issue of divorce. I’ve also shown how Christians like Glenn Stanton from Focus on the Family are actually proud that devout Christians only divorce 38% of the time. More recently I’ve shown that the movie Christians cherish for representing their values on marriage is actually barely dressed up divorce porn for women.
Yet with all of this even I was stunned by comments left on my blog yesterday by a respected Christian author and speaker on the topic of marriage. In my post Promiscuity is good, so long as it is done on the woman’s terms I pointed out that there is no backing for the popular belief that the female preferred form of promiscuity (serial monogamy/ serial polyandry) is more moral than the male preferred form of promiscuity. I used the example of Christians arguing that the wife in Fireproof was justified in her attempt to swing from marriage to marriage:
This is similar to the argument by the Christian women that the wife in Fireproof wasn’t being whorish because she planned on divorcing her husband and marrying the other man she was after before having sex with him.
Sheila Gregoire is one of the Christian women I had in mind when I made that statement, and she noticed the post and defended her position:
But I just want to clarify: I do believe that she had grounds for divorce because of his pornography addiction. I think that’s where the fundamental disagreement comes in. I don’t think she SHOULD have divorced him, anymore than I think a woman should leave a guy because of a one-night stand. Jesus never said that we SHOULD divorce. He only said that in cases of affairs, divorce is permitted.
And so in the movie Fireproof, she was in a relationship where divorce was permitted, and she was planning on divorcing, and planning on remarrying. Thus, I wouldn’t say that’s whorish. He’s the one who cheated.
I’m just uncomfortable with you saying that Christians are allowing people to “whore” around because we’re permitting divorce, when I don’t think that’s the case. I believe there are very narrow grounds for divorce: abuse, affairs, and in some cases, addictions. In many of those cases, I’d argue that they should separate and not remarry, such as the case of addictions.
Note that she states that there should be only a few very defined reasons for divorce, and then proceeds to expand the definition to the point where nearly every wife initiated divorce is justified. Adultery is expanded to the point where a man watching porn qualifies: He’s the one who cheated.
While Sheila uses the term pornography addiction in her comment, this is outside her primary justification (porn as adultery) for the wife’s plan to line up husband number two while still married to the first one. She states that addiction would be grounds for separation without remarriage, not to divorce and find another man. Based on her own standard even if the husband had indeed been shown as a porn addict, the wife’s actions would not have been justified on those grounds. Her justification is that watching pornography is adultery. This may be why the creators of the movie Fireproof were so murky on exactly what the husband’s transgression regarding porn really was. They didn’t feel the need to make a solid case for porn addiction before they showed the wife shutting off entirely towards her husband and actively pursuing another man. As I pointed out in my review the wife didn’t even accuse the husband of being a porn addict, and while the term was used later in the movie there was nothing which showed the husband as being an addict. Here is the exchange from the movie where we are told the husband is viewing porn:
Catherine: If looking at that trash is how you get fulfilled, then that is fine. But I will not compete with it.
Caleb: Well, I sure don’t get it from you!
Catherine: And you won’t. Because you care more about saving for your stupid boat and pleasing yourself than you ever did about me.
The fundamental problem is that Christian women are being given get out of marriage free cards while Christian men are being told man up and marry these Christian women. This selective moral softness from Christians combines with our legal system which rewards women who commit divorce theft and creates millions of fatherless children. Your husband looked at porn? Dump him and find another man! Keep in mind this isn’t some corner case example I’ve made up. This is from the movie Christians profess shows their views on marriage. Moreover, Sheila isn’t just another commenter on the internet, she is a respected author and speaker on the topic of marriage for Christian women. All men need to understand this; if your wife decides to divorce you for another man, there will be well respected Christians lining up to justify her decision and place all of the blame on you. If that means conflating viewing pornography with actual adultery, so be it. This is true even in cases where the wife was withholding sex in an effort to control the husband. She even excuses the wife lining up the other man while still married.
It isn’t just men viewing porn which gives women a get out of marriage free card though. Sheila also listed abuse as the other fundamental justification for divorce. In one of Sheila’s video blogs she reminded women that they shouldn’t assume husbands are the only ones with obligations. This brought her a chorus of emails from angry Christian women complaining that she was telling them not to be true to themselves. That Christian women would feel comfortable spouting such nonsense to her should be proof enough of what is so terribly broken in Christian culture. To Sheila’s credit, she did a follow on video blog post where she gently reminded these women that being true to yourself is not actually a biblical value. One of the youtube commenters on the original video countered with the following:
Your advice is nice, in thought, but unrealistic in practice. I did that exact thing for 7 years, as a married Christian woman. It got rough after the first year. I doubted my marriage. But I stuck it out. I convinced myself it was ME who needed to change. So I did. I completely revamped my entire being. And I did it several times over the next 6 years.
I will say, I was extremely emotionally abused. What do you suggest in those circumstances? I got out. And my life is happier than ever.
What exactly is emotional abuse? I’m not sure, but ladies you will be excited to learn it also counts as a get out of marriage free card! Sheila responded with the following:
Of course, if there is abuse going on, that is a totally different story. But changing yourself doesn’t mean that you change who you fundamentally are. It just means that you change your expectations and go to God to help you be the person He wants you to be. That’s a good kind of change. Changing so that you tolerate abuse is something else entirely. But abuse was not the issue in this woman’s letter; she just felt like she didn’t love him.
So now we know emotional abuse fits in her definition of abuse. Again, she states that only two very specific reasons justify divorce and then proceeds to expand the terms to the point where nearly every wife initiated divorce is justified.
Sheila also had the following criticism for my approach in this blog:
I find that you talk a lot on this blog about how people should never divorce (which I more or less agree with), and that women shouldn’t expect so much from their husbands (which I also agree with), and that women are asking their husbands to be both betas and alphas at the same time (which I also agree with), and that women leave their husbands too much (again, in agreement). But what I don’t find is you dealing honestly with genuine problems that couples have with communication, with distance, with betrayal of trust, with porn, etc. I agree with everything you’re saying, but I don’t think marriages can be fixed with a simple “suck it up and put on your big girl panties”. That might make someone STAY in the marriage, but it won’t make the marriage thrive, and what I’d like to see is couples who are genuinely attached and intimate.
Sheila misunderstands me. I don’t believe people should never divorce. My concern is that the definition of justified divorce has been so expanded as to make a mockery of the concept of marriage. She is also missing a fundamental point; putting on your big girl panties really does lead to happy marriages, at least in the majority of cases. Moreover, if Christians were serious about holding men and women to their vows they would then have the moral authority to try to assist these couples in good faith. While religious leaders may disagree, secular scientists have studied the issue and found that brute force willpower to stay married actually solves surprisingly difficult marital problems. It’s almost as if God designed marriage that way. I’ve covered this in detail here, but here is one of the key quotes from one paper which studied this:
Many currently happily married spouses have had extended periods of marital unhappiness, often for quite serious reasons, including alcoholism, infidelity, verbal abuse, emotional neglect, depression, illness, and work reversals. Why did these marriages survive where other marriages did not? The marital endurance ethic appears to play a big role. Many spouses said that their marriages got happier, not because they and their partner resolved problems but because they stubbornly outlasted them. With time, they told us, many sources of conflict and distress eased.
One factor which undoubtedly plays a role here is the widespread adoption of feminism by Christian and secular women alike. The knee jerk blame the husband tendency which I have described above shows how immersed modern Christianity is in modern feminism. Fellow blogger Laura Grace Robbins captured my own thoughts when she wrote:
I’m starting to think the feminism in Christianity cuts much, much deeper than I originally thought.
This is relevant both because a general sense of unhappiness is the philosophical foundation for modern feminism, and because we know that women who try to be the leaders in their marriage are very likely to be unhappy as a result. As I mentioned earlier, Christian women hold some truly outrageous beliefs when it comes to marriage and being “true to themselves”. It is no wonder that millions of these women are unhappy. Like the wife in Fireproof, many have decided that their husbands should submit to their leadership. Christians could of course address this if they weren’t deeply mired in the very feminism at the source of the problem.
I’ll close with a brief defense of both Sheila Gregoire and Christian women in general. Sheila is actually one of the stronger pro marriage voices in modern Christian culture. This is what makes her fundamental weakness on the issue so deeply troubling. She isn’t on the pro divorce fringe, she is one of the speakers churches bring in to strengthen marriage. She writes some of the books Christian wives read on the topic of marriage. I have focused on her arguments because she is proof of how incredibly soft on marriage Christians in general have become. If this weren’t the case, she wouldn’t be seen as pro marriage by mainstream Christians. As for defending Christian women, there are many women who comment on this blog who do not believe that a woman is justified in divorcing one man and marrying another because the first husband viewed pornography. Single men looking to marry shouldn’t write off all Christian women. Just like there are atheist women who truly believe in marriage there still are Christian women who feel the same, and the statistics bear this out. What a man looking to marry needs to do is test for this trait in the woman herself, and not assume it comes with regular church attendance or even a seeming deep devotion to Christianity. More difficult is the question of church attendance itself. Studies have shown that divorce tends to spread like disease. Attending a church which is soft on divorce puts a man’s marriage (and therefore his children) at risk. Unfortunately no one has yet been able to identify a congregation for me which isn’t soft on marriage. I have seen one so I do know they exist. Christianity doesn’t have to be soft on marriage, the vast majority of Christians have merely chosen to be.”)
-at the Dalrock blog around March 17 2012 and then a while later i started reading THEN- current dated posts-Anyway the main thing i liked about Anonymous Commenter(formerly known as the 60S/70S muscle car building lawyer of the midwest theDetster),Scott & Dalrock himself were that their very good at describing problems and such but thought the solution was ALWAYS,ALWAYS,ALWAYS ”MORE MUH GAME( THAT I THINK IS DEMANDED & ORIGINATED FROM ON HIGH) BY DA LAWD) WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING WRONG WIT MARRIAGE & DATING!!”
i just thought ”game”=”redpill” was just trying to emulate ”successful with women,male traits”.
Which DON’T matter that much in the current ( & last 30 years or so)”markets” as Anonymous Commenter(formerly known as the 60S/70S muscle car building lawyer of the midwest theDetster),Scott & Dalrock himself claimed even between 2010 & 2015-the last BIGG years of ”game=”redpill” on the net & supposedly in da clubs & bars-which is why i agreed with you over Scott when he told you (back in 2021)”I estimate you’re social intelligence Quotient to be around 130 or so” and you essentially said ”How is that going to help if one has been deemed ugly by women?”
More proof that ”RPGenius” ”Leaders” are GEN -trolls from MKUltra!!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15520263/Gen-Z-intelligent-neuroscientist.html
By CHRIS MELORE, US ASSISTANT SCIENCE EDITOR
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Gen-Zers have become the first generation since records began to be less intelligent than their parents, and an expert has uncovered the reason.
Dr Jared Cooney Horvath, a former teacher-turned-neuroscientist, revealed that the generation born between 1997 and the early 2010s has been cognitively stunted by their over-reliance on digital technology in school.
Since records have been kept on cognitive development in the late 1800s, Gen Z is now officially the first group to ever score lower than the generation before them, declining in attention, memory, reading and math skills, problem-solving abilities, and overall IQ.
Horvath told the US Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation that Gen Z intelligence dropped despite these teenagers and young adults spending more time in school than children did in the 20th century.
The cause, Horvath claimed, is directly tied to the increase in the amount of learning that is now carried out using what he called ‘educational technology’ or EdTech, which includes computers and tablets.
The neuroscientist explained that this generation has fallen behind because the human brain was never wired to learn from short clips seen online and reading brief sentences that sum up much larger books and complex ideas.
‘More than half of the time a teenager is awake, half of it is spent staring at a screen,’ Horvath told the New York Post.
‘Humans are biologically programmed to learn from other humans and from deep study, not flipping through screens for bullet point summaries.’
Horvath and other experts speaking to Congress explained that humans evolved to learn best through real human interaction, meaning face-to-face with teachers and peers, not from screens.
He added that screens disrupt the natural biological processes that build deep understanding, memory, and focus.
It is not about poor implementation, inadequate training or the need for better apps in schools. Scientists said the technology itself was mismatched with how our brains naturally work, grow and retain information.
Horvath, the director of LME Global, a group that shares brain and behavioral research with businesses and schools, said that data clearly show that cognitive abilities began to plateau and even decline around 2010.
The expert told senators that schools in general hadn’t changed much that year, and that human biology evolves too slowly for it to have been the reason.
‘The answer appears to be the tools we are using within schools to drive that learning,’ Horvath told lawmakers on January 15.
‘If you look at the data, once countries adopt digital technology widely in schools, performance goes down significantly.’
He added that the US wasn’t the only country affected by digital cognitive decline, noting that his research covered 80 countries and showed a six-decade trend of poorer learning outcomes as more tech entered classrooms.
Moreover, kids using computers for just five hours a day specifically for their schoolwork scored noticeably lower than those who rarely or never used tech in class.
In the US, data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) uncovered that when states rolled out widespread one-to-one device programs, meaning each student gets their own device, scores often flattened or dropped quickly.
While centuries of data have shown that Gen Z has fallen off the path of constant human development, Horvath claimed that many teens and young adults were unaware of their struggles and were actually proud of their alleged intelligence.
‘Most of these young people are overconfident about how smart they are. The smarter people think they are, the dumber they actually are,’ he told the Post.
He noted that Gen Z has become so comfortable with consuming information outside of class through short, attention-escaping sentences and video clips, on platforms such as TikTok, that many schools have given in and now teach in this same manner.
‘What do kids do on computers? They skim. So rather than determining what do we want our children to do and gearing education towards that, we are redefining education to better suit the tool. That’s not progress, that is surrender,’ Horvath warned.
Education experts at the January hearing recommended imposing delays on giving children smartphones, bringing back flip phones instead for young children when needed, and taking nationwide action to normalize limits on tech in schools.
The group called the issue plaguing Gen Z a ‘societal emergency,’ and urged federal lawmakers to consider models like Scandinavia’s EdTech bans.
i didn’t start using computers at all until i was 12yo at school and that was pre-WWW internet i.e. BBS internet-when i started using computers more in Junior High.
IOW i’m glad i didn’t get my own PC until after i was a full adult or i could have turned out to be a ”RPGenius” ”Leader” thatwould have needed dalrock to translate the TRUTH of ROISSY,MOSES,JESUS & GBFM to my more than would have been likely ”dungeon master”self.
At least dalrock NEVER boasted about being a ”genius” or giving a I.Q number of 142 or 154 like certain have.
Oh dont worry, IQ doesnt mean anything until it does. Meaning, the same people who discount IQ are the ones bragging how high and exceptional theirs is 😉
Usually teachers, educators, college professors, progressive-liberals
And then, the usual. People with a 110 IQ lording it off like they have a 150 IQ. And, still the people who are supposedly geniuses and then excuse their poor decisions, laziness, bad behavior because of their “high IQ” and “If only society rewarded intelligent people, I wouldnt behave like this”
Met plenty of legitimate brilliant people who had abysmal personal lives, and have met some folks who are not that smart but do have plenty of common “horse sense” and live in the real world and function fine.
IQ is pretty much a bragging rights card to show up / shut down a conversation now.
Hence why I dont take much stock in it.
And to follow up.
Same thing with being conventionally handsome or attractive by a cultural standard.
“Oh looks dont matter, its whats on the inside that really counts / beauty fades / did you know in The Bible it says that everything is fleeting / confidence only matters”
Just about always said by people who are indeed “attractive / handsome” to the “not as attractive” others
In college I was always accused of having white privee by fellow students. The ironic thing was that I was being accused of this ALWAYS by other white people who came from a higher social / economic order of white people than where I came from.
Told over and over that “sex is a part of marriage, not the whole thing” by people who have no problem getting it, have had it or could get it with ease. Funny too, in the same breath, they say “as a man you will die without it”
Anyone tell The Pope this? How about Jesus?
IQ has fallen into the same type of thing now. Its okay to not have a high IQ then the slight of hand “you need to know your place / you need to be the ditch digger / be happy with what God gave you because he loves you so much, but he indirectly “loves” me a wee bit more”
Science and people who claim “science” as the end all be all of anything and everything have turned it into a fast fashion claim and are actually ruining the prestige it took centuries for it to attain in less than a generation….and these are the “smart” people. Lol
Now their speaking on why DAL quit blogging.
Jackabond says:
2026/02/12 at 11:09
“That’s why I’m covering his talk here, to fill in the blanks and add some ‘meat’ to the ‘milk’.”
Apt analogy. Good to know that you clearly see the need for this, and recognize the performative limitations of blogging / broadcasting on men’s issues.
Those limitations can unfortunately act in ways that are contrary to the core aim of helping men in real life on every intersex issue in every phase of life. This is also why I believe Red Pill teaching is useful as an initiation and not necessarily a schematic for lifelong manliness. In reality, men must find their own path under God, and respond to life’s challenges according to the gifts and abilities they’ve been given. I believe Dalrock received a word from God about this limitation and stopped posting on his blog soon thereafter.
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2026/02/12 at 20:52
JB,
The Red Pill is a phenomenal breakthrough in consciousness — at the time it is discovered. But once digested, it is merely a pit stop in the journey of life.
I think Dalrock stopped blogging because (1) he had been doing it for 10 years, and (2) the criticism he received from his interview with Warhorn was exhausting. (3) I think there was something else too, but we’ll never know what it was(EVEN THOUGH MY IQ IS HUMBLY OBSERVED @ 142 DUDE).”
The third reason was this little thing called ”game”=”redpill” being reduced to nuthing by another thing called ”blackpill” + DAL thinking it was okay in 2015 TO BAN MOSES,JESUS & GBFM(how did that work out?)since they were known for taking off September -December in 2013 & ’14 most people must have thought that by January 2016(which is when his lower comment & pageviews really set in) they would be back,but they werent and when they did come back in between March & May 2018 it was NEVER the same!
PS:HOW DID MR.142 IQ NOT KNOW HIS ”SIGMA” IDOL VOX DAY(THE ONE WHO CREATED THE ”SIGMA” CATEGHORY OF SPECIALIZED ”ALPHA”-WHO ALWAYS SAYS HIS IQ IS 154)’S REAL NAME OF TED BEAL(HE NEEDED THE DETSTER TO TELL HIM) 2 YEARS BACK?
Why did Dalrock quit?
Probably because everything that needed to be said had been said a trillion times over.
Probably because he got tired of it.
Probably because his daughter was getting older. He wanted to be there in action and deed…..not just in words on a blog
Probably his wife was saying, ten years hubby. I gave you time to make a career of this and it hasnt happened. Come o…..you and I need time now. Us.
Probably he realized the followers were not doing ONE thing he told them to do. Lots of “protestant, lukewarm christian talk” and then slamming the door on the very men tjey all claimed to “love”
Probably he wanted time for himself
Probably just kne day said. No reason. Done.
Probably understood that all the “game” and “the gym” and “red pill” wont change anything unless the gal you like, are maaried to, or are dating wants to be that gal
By the way, you misspelled your email address, so this comment went to moderation. I only just noticed it.
This video explains why polymaths like Einstein, Darwin, Leonardo da Vinci, and Tesla dominated history instead of ”geniuses”!
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If you care about learning better, thinking deeper, and developing a stronger mind in the modern world, this video is for you.”
It mainly explains why ”RPGenius” ”leaders” get stuck on the one subject of women=sex.
i found this just a few minutes ago that remind me of what ”RPGenius” ”leaders” did to too many MEN in the ”holy” manosphere in the last decade+.
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It’s the ones with high intelligence that willfully misuse what they have that annoy me.
Hey MOD!
i wonder what the ”RPGenius” ”leaders” would say about this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X05w7pctf_0
Why Humans Were Never Meant to Go to the Gym (Evolution Explains) | Dr. Lieberman, Harvard Professor
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Why Humans Were Never Meant to Go to the Gym (Evolution Explains) | Dr. Daniel Lieberman, Harvard Professor
Modern humans struggle with exercise not because they are lazy, but because their bodies were designed for a completely different world. For millions of years, our ancestors moved out of necessity, not for fitness. Today, we sit for most of the day and then blame ourselves for not wanting to work out. This video explains the evolutionary truth behind why exercise feels so hard, and how understanding your biology changes everything.
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• Why humans evolved to conserve energy instead of seeking workouts
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• The real reason discomfort during movement can feel alarming today
• How aging and inactivity are often linked through mismatch, not just time
• The psychological shift that makes movement feel more natural and sustainable
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For most of human history:
• Movement was tied to survival, not appearance
• Walking formed the foundation of daily activity
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Your brain still runs on this ancient system. That is why structured, purposeless exercise can feel unnatural, even though your body still needs movement to function well.
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• Make movement part of daily life, not a separate punishment session
• Focus on consistent, moderate activity rather than extreme workouts
• Tie movement to purpose such as walking somewhere, carrying, building, or exploring
• Respect rest as normal, but avoid all-day inactivity
• Think like an ancient human living in a modern world
This is not about gym culture. It is about biological design.
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i mainly like ”RPGenius” ”leaders” who claim they don’t care what women want but then proceed to tell you how much they can lift(like most MEN in history or the ”patriarchy” cared about that).
Again, I am not against physical fitness. For some reason other in the ‘sphere feel and believe that I am against this.
First. There is nothing wrong with being physically fit. What IS wrong is that the “only way” to get a woman to “Meet Cute” you or “date you” or “show interest” is that you have to bench press a house, do so many reps in a certain ammt of time or you might as well put on a dress and undesrtand that “you didnt want to put the work in to get a girl”
Second. Its the culture itself. Suppose you are 27. A man. Okay, not overweight. Not in shape…..BUT….you muster up the courage to actually go, or sign up or join. You arrive. You are mocked, bullied, told to “use that machine there” by staff. You ask for help. You are given looks like “you should know / a smirk / ignored”
Third. men are told we have this “unspoken” brotherhood of being men. Most men at the gym who are new are bullied, given the side eye and are “holding things up for the real-men who know what they are doing” and are not encouraged.
Fourth. Its a place to show off. Homo-erotic nonsense.
Lastly. Many men decide that they dont even belong here. They decide to try on their own, and many succeed of basic fitness goals…losing weight, trying to build muscle, and building confidence through a community that catually wants to help them.
When I got back into Scouting in 2010. Yes, I had some camping knowledge from growing up an area that fostered this….but I was MENTORED properly by some really great seasoned older Scoutmasters to build up and brush up the skills and indeed become a good one, and for my own enjoyment.
But hiking and backpacking isnt “physical fitness” according to the ‘sphere.
Knew a guy that got back into soccer as an older man. Joined a senior league (over 45) in Fresno. Supportive, helpful, appropriate drill and practice and then matches with other teams. He was hardly built like a sherman tank. Just a guy who knew he had to get active again, liked soccer……
In LA, every weekend, I would go to the one local gigantic shopping mall….get my coffee or juice. And walk it, many times for walking sake. Its was safe, indoors, and climate controlled. It was a few miles every week.
This “being a real man” thing means to these bo-bo’s is that you have to life a house, have 50,000 young women drooling over you and have lots of sex and opportunities for it daily.
Hence why most of their movement is a joke
Oh and make sure, if you are man who wants to get married………
You are now between the ages of 30-40, marry a virgin who is under 25…………
AND
when you show up at any of these “real man” and “bold and biblical” churches as a 30-40 year old man looking for an under 25 virgin, church girl, the “real men” will be “real fast” to run you out for checking out their young (cough) virginal daughter and the other younger women and trying to date them 🙂
When THEIR sons do this or THEY do this, this is normal, acceptable, and should be the cultural norm 😉
Also what wasnt mentioned: Good career, benching a house, have all your investments ready, have five trillion hobbies you have mastered, have Game and confidence, be able to “spin plates” and of course you have to be above average looking.
Any other man that tries this? Creep / perverted / not-waiting-on-God or knowing-your-place
Snowing hard here today, we’re supposed to get 6-8″ inches in Ogden proper, a few feet up in the mountains at the resorts.
Waking dream at or around 4 am. the theme from The Waltons (1970s tv show) was flowing / playing in the dream. I was walking down the road I grew up on. It wasnt paved (dirt road until the mid 1980s) and I could smell the pine, the sun filtered through the trees through the canopy it made over the road. Was it the 1970’s? Was this a dream. Ah, yes……at some point in the dream, I realized that I was dreaming. I slowly awoke and I could feel the sun hitting my face here and there.
Just a pleasant memory of “what once was” so very long ago.
Trying to figure and ponder “why” I had this dream. Im at the age where its a rare treat to remember a dream when I wake up.
Dirt roads were still a thing in the mid atlantic up until 1990(around the time mine got paved) or so in my neck of the woods too.
PSTheDETSTER on dating today
Farm Boy(yall support your b-boying farm boy)says:
20 February, 2026 at 2:24 pm
But the non-hawt men were filtered out. So there is that
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thedetster (giving out dalrockian dating law advice today)says:
20 February, 2026 at 2:35 pm
What should young men do
–don’t go to “college” per se: 4 year university where you live in a dorm or residence hall “on campus”
–if you are stupid enough to go to 4 year uni, live off campus
–if you date a girl or take a girl out, keep a text record of everything. Create a text/paper trail for your sexual interactions with women. Find out the statute of limitations for SA/grape, and keep the text record for that period of time (usually 2-5 years). After your time with a girl/woman, send a text stating you had a good time and you’d like to see them again and that you hope they had a good time too. If at all possible, get a confirmatory text message from the girl stating they had a good time. “Friend” them on social media and mine those social media pages for info. Save that info in case you have to use it later. Save everything you can, including photos and statements.
–I used to advise recording or making video recordings of, ahem, encounters. That violates most states’ anti-eavesdropping statutes. Your call: would you rather get jammed up on a misdemeanor or minor felony eavesdropping charge or get a little fantastical poon; or on a SA/rape charge which carries significantly more time while seeking fantasticalk poon ladz?
–if you get falsely accused, sue the woman and anyone else who participates in the false accusation. Sue them for defamation and defamation-adjacent & playa-hatas of dalrock game torts. Make it clear that when “discovery” happens, you’ll get the entire contents of their phones and social media pages. That means all their hookups, all their texts, all their racy photos, all their thirst trap shit – all of it. Their entire sexual histories will come out in a very, VERY public way. Report them to local law enforcement and press criminal charges to the fullest extent of the law.
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tthedetster(giving out dalrockian dating law advice today)says:
20 February, 2026 at 2:52 pm
A note on getting jammed up on criminal charges without decent game knowledge,action & accountablity to the dalrock:
Most of the time you’ll be able to plead it down. Say you get jammed up on a felony eavesdropping charge. Almost all the time you can plead that down to the generic “disorderly conduct” which is a misdemeanor. Most prosecutors don’t want to fux around with felony eavesdropping unless it’s a slam dunk.
SA/grape is more amorphous sometimes. Questionable SA/grape cases often result in no prosecution because it’s he said/she said or because the evidence is not strong enough to get an indictment or a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt. If you’re getting seriously jammed up on a SA/grape charge, it’s because of one or more of the following:
–you actually did it
–you’re a shitbag
–you have a rap sheet
–you made incriminating statements somewhere
–somewhere, there’s audio or video evidence that inculpates you
–the woman you, um, engaged with is a credible witness, a great liar, has a lot of money, or has a lot of connected powerful friends or relatives
–either the prosecutor or the woman you engaged with has decided to use you to make some kind of larger social or political point
If a SA/grape charge makes it to the prelim hearing stage, either the prosecutor has a good case; the prosecutor believes it’s a good case; or the prosecutor is getting pressure from somewhere to bring the case.
MOD you do know that jackIQ142 new orthodox bud is Tubal Cain?Who doersn’t speak on MEN fuxing ’til age100(remember when Mike Savage thought it was nuts for MEN to be taking boner pills into their 70s,80s & 90s?”what you going to be 100 taking viagra?”) but instead that MEN should be MANLY like their 1950s ancestors who had heart attacks left and right & keep on slaving for feminists corporations til age100!
Tubal Cain says:
2026/02/20 at 18:11
In the many years I’ve swam in (and fished in) dirty water, not by choice, but by circumstances, I’ve seen scores of toxic 🤡 show employers where married male managers and/or business owners openly held ongoing adulterous affairs, and laid with complicit female employees and subordinates.
The pictures of pretty, long-legged, and svelte young Asian females in short skirts and heels (gotta hand it to Jack when he hits it out of the ballpark to stress points) has not been the case. The usual suspects were dusty, rotund, and dowdy (sometimes younger) middle-aged married and/or divorcees (single mothers), and born again Beckys (I live in the epicenter of an evangelical love fest) who took the managers and owners into the supply closet, or into a vacant office (after hours) for copulation fests. The tension and turmoil that resulted for employees who were just trying to get through the day, let alone the power play these women were handed, to randomly demand (and get fulfilled) the terminations (gotta love at-will employment) of those they disliked (via threatening to go to the manager’s and owner’s wives), let alone the dissolution of marriages and families, was prevalent as well.
Despite turning 68(after being 67 for decades here at jack’s) in 2 weeks, and still pushing my boulder working (what’s retirement??), my current employer of 2 years (to their credit) doesn’t allow this, and I’m seeing and hearing elsewhere that this is the case more and more (most likely fearing litigation, not for some act of contrition sadly) as MEN BE ”REDPILL” ORTHODOX AND KEEP WORKING UNTIL INFINITY!!!!
MORE tthedetster(giving out dalrockian dating law advice today).
tthedetster(giving out dalrockian dating law advice today)says:
20 February, 2026 at 5:04 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uecf8Y8lvPI&list=PLV5X47OmZs2vFhY13M68R3GKEf7pxh37j&t=3311s
Nick Freitas: The Dating Market is Dead; Who Killed it?
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Like most tradcons, he’s completely and totally wrong. He won’t hold women accountable. He blames men for everything. He doesn’t recognize Christian women don’t want average men and certainly not Christian men; Christian women are hooking up just like nonChristian women are; and women are the ones who are driving everything here. Not a word about what men will get out of the deal. Not a word about what men get if they do all these things he demands.
For the eleventy billionth DALROCKIAN time:
If you want men to do things, you have to incentivize it-GIVE MENZ GAMES TO PLAY WIT WIMMINZ CHILD. Men do what they’re incentivized to do.
Men do not do things where there are no incentives or disincentives.
There are no incentives to marry OR DO GAMMEY GAME MARRIEDZ. There are no incentives for men to do all these things that you want men to do EXCEPT FOR JACKIQ142’S ”IT TAKES A VILLAGE” FEMINISMZ THAT IS.
All the pics Jack uses of women and men. All the women wearing makeup (gasp!), slvette, thin, perfect skin and many look underage. All in various stages of “heat”
All the men are lean jawed, perfect hair, athletic or toned.
Never seen any men in church look like that.
Sadly, and ironically here in Utah…The Mormons…..out and about in stores. In the neighborhoods. The boys and young men. Shirts and ties, on Sundays. Handsome you could say. Not overweight. The young women? My heavens. Many are drop dead beautiful. Little or no makeup. Well scrubbed, tastefully dressed. Modest. Thin. Pretty.
There was some sort of party / meeting at one of the larger hotels here in Ogden for younger Mormons. Huge crowd of young people. 100, 200? I said to myself as I drove past “they must be doing something right” they didnt need adult supervision. Run of the mill Christian teens and young adults the same age WOULD need supervision
Meanwhile in just about ALL Christian churches I have witnessed and have been in:
Flip flops and pajama bottoms on girls. Midriffs showing. Guys in tee shirts. Baseball caps. Jeans. Women looking like they are going to a nightclub after service. Sipping coffee during the service. Eating. Everyone on a phone. More of a “you are welcome God, see Im here on Sunday!” attitude.
Not going to become a Mormon, but as an outsider I see why people DO become Mormons. There are expectations. In the Christian churches, all of them there isnt any expectations. Hence why again, it isnt attracting anyone
” All the pics Jack uses of women and men.All the women wearing makeup (gasp!), slvette, thin, perfect skin and many look underage. All in various stages of “heat”
All the men are lean jawed, perfect hair, athletic or toned.”
Remember Boxer’s theory on Jack? https://v5k2c2.androsphere.net/2020/05/27/aesthetic-theory-and-rape-porn/
” Aesthetic Theory and Rape Porn
May 27, 2020Boxer
Yesterday I wandered down to my abandoned beach, eerily peaceful despite the long holiday weekend. While walking, I realized that I had a series of easily answered questions.
A couple of weeks ago, I mentioned that Derek was an author at the Sigma Frame Blog. He told me I was full of shit. Does Derek have an account there? I thought he did.
Just last week, someone mentioned that LastMod had been banned from Sigma Frame. Is this true? What on earth could he have done?
I have no personal squabble with the Sigma Frame blog, with its author, or with any of its readers. I haven’t read it in years, simply because I am not a good fit for the content. I have never bothered to ponder the reasons why. Certain things just don’t appeal to me.
Even so, people I enjoyed reading seem to be having issues with the outlet, and this was reason enough for me to poke around.
So it was that I wandered over there today, in the hope of answering my questions.
Had my original question been why don’t I like to read Sigma Frame? I would have had an easy answer with the very first article I saw. It prominently featured a bit of bondage porn.
The first clue I had about the existence of this outlet was when Derek Ramsey linked back to an article I wrote, in a discussion with this character, and he dismissed it by insulting my character and intelligence.
As O.P. Rockwell (or Anton LaVey) might remind me, water seeks out and finds its own level. I’m comfortable with the sharp delineation between residents of this post code and a bunch of degenerates with rape fantasies.
Whenever I have an emotional reaction to something, I always try to analyze it. A critic might accuse me of having some sort of sexual hangup, in not finding photos of bound, gagged, terrified women appealing. I suppose that’s probably true. Even so, I think my contention is less moral than aesthetic. I am not against porn, or men enjoying it. I like porn myself. I generally like the same sorts of porn that my grandfather found exciting. These inevitably feature non-nude women alone, in various provocative states of skimpy dress.
I still don’t know whether Ram Man writes for Sigma Frame, or whether Last Mod got banned there, and I suppose I don’t care enough to keep dredging through such content. I’m glad they’re both here, even if I spend most of my time disagreeing with them. If I’ve reported something incorrectly, now or in the past, I hope they will forgive me.
Life is short. Get off the internet, and go someplace beautiful.”
There was some sort of party / meeting at one of the larger hotels here in Ogden for younger Mormons. Huge crowd of young people. 100, 200? I said to myself as I drove past “they must be doing something right” they didnt need adult supervision. Run of the mill Christian teens and young adults the same age WOULD need supervision
Meanwhile in just about ALL Christian churches I have witnessed and have been in:
Flip flops and pajama bottoms on girls. Midriffs showing. Guys in tee shirts. Baseball caps. Jeans. Women looking like they are going to a nightclub after service. Sipping coffee during the service. Eating. Everyone on a phone. More of a “you are welcome God, see Im here on Sunday!” attitude.
Not going to become a Mormon, but as an outsider I see why people DO become Mormons. There are expectations. In the Christian churches, all of them there isnt any expectations. Hence why again, it isnt attracting anyone
i was at a walmart in a east coast capitol city, 5 or so months ago and a few 20-something Mormon MEN( in shirts and ties of course)were asking people come to their tabernacle AKA church.
One of my GREAT- grand mothers from the 1800’s was originally a mormon-i think mainly because her near -super rich i.e. worth at least tens of $millions,father was,her family like most past super rich ones are NOT near- super rich i.e. worth at least tens of $millions-anymore.
I have noticed in Utah thus far…..Mormons leave pretty much everyone alone here. Why? Its their state. Their home. They know its their show here for the most part.
Many Utahans are called “jack mormons” meaning, they were raised Mormon, or are a generation or two removed from the faith proper. They may still go to a service here and there (wedding / funeral) but are not practicing. They seem to have some cultural trappings of that faith. Many drink, smoke…….that kind of thing but they do seem to hold some “genteel” respect; but dont believe or practice.
But, it is their show here and there are a ton of them. They keep to themselves. They are here in large numbers but dont seem to “witness” here or “mission” here
Again, lots of the young / younger Mormon gals I do see around. Slender. Pretty. Feminine. Smiling.
I cant knock it.
They don’t witness or mission? That’s interesting. I don’t see them going around in groups here anymore either, if I see them at all.
Why the change? I understand that they still have training centers for young men to go out and do this.
Not in Utah as much, probably because this is “the home” of the faith. They run the State on all levels. I saw them in LA, and Fresno witnessing and I *think* the Mormons have accepted the future of their church is Latin America and Asia (and many young Mormon men go to “mission” and witness there)
i like where the guys at Spawnys don’t like Allie Beth Stuckey AKA ABS saying wimminz were/are getting ”twicked” when they themselves say it as in ”women naturally want a tough menz but cultural marxism messes it all up”
https://x.com/conservmillen/status/2015954791558488535?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2015954791558488535%7Ctwgr%5Edd420430686d5223fc3a81c75a2183a97fc2b5cc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fspawnyspace.wordpress.com%2F2026%2F02%2F24%2Fgilligan%2F
Allie Beth Stuckey
@conservmillen
It’s 2020 all over again. Well-meaning Christian women are being duped by emotionally evocative messaging and images on Instagram.
If you’re not in this female demographic, you have no idea how strong this strategic propaganda campaign is. The pressure to repost social justice talking points to signal that you’re a good, empathetic person.
Mindlessly repeating the narrative is rewarded, while critically thinking —especially out loud —is punished venomously by friends, followers, and family members who will shame you for lacking compassion.
Even women who call themselves conservative Christians are echoing the perspective of left-wing outlets, insisting that Trump is going too far in his immigration enforcement.
It’s like they don’t remember that these are the very same outlets who lied to us about George Floyd, COVID, and pro-life laws.
It’s good to have compassion. We should always feel sad about loss of life. But we cannot allow our compassion to suspend sound judgment.
Women, we have the ability to use discernment and think clearly. We do not have to use emotion to make important policy decisions. Don’t be swept up by this campaign targeting us. Use your mind, ask smart questions, and stand strong”
With the detster
thedetster says:
24 February, 2026 at 2:11 pm
Women like ABS claim the ability to “think clearly” about everything except men and their relationships with men. Remember, this is the same ABS who, we documented on this blog last fall, was exhorting men to “step up” because “we need you” and “your masculinity” & ”it takes a village bluepill version not the Biblical ”redpill” version”.
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thedetster says:
24 February, 2026 at 2:13 pm
Women are more easily deceived.
This happened to me over the weekend. I watched a close friend of my wife veer 180 degrees from one position and back again.
“Oh, I’m worried about what I’ve heard about this!”
Then after seeing it, it’s
“Oh, I guess I’m OK with this!”
Then after hearing more bad things, it’s
“Oh, I always felt kind of bad about this! I’m worried again!”
* Eyeroll *
OK.
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thedetster says:
24 February, 2026 at 2:21 pm
Red Pill truths were on full display at this event I was at over the weekend with my wife and her dear friend. The wedding and reception were a 7 hour long red pill masterclass on what not to do. Beta behaviors, Churchianism, soyboys, clinginess, neediness, pedestalization, woman worship,in-general no- dalrockian/voxian game lame dudes– it was all there. It’s been a very long time since I’ve seen this much cringe in person in real time.
TheDetster NOT remembering that the ”married” gamers told any ”married” or single dude that they could step up their game & have a ”happy marriage” like themselves but are talking different as usual since the ending of Dalrock in January 2020,the ”blackpill” over taking the ”redpill” ( FOUR years before they knew/acknowledged it) & cuz of current videoes like this:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YNVsiRkg9B4
When Women Don’t find Men Attractive
thedetster says:
27 February, 2026 at 2:50 pm
Wait dude where is my dalrockian(TM) car?
Hold it ladz.
All stop lasses.
I thought we were told that looks don’t matter (all that much).
I thought that male sexual attractiveness is only a little bit about looks; and it’s more “confidence” and “dominance” and “has a job & keeps it 4 relz” and “loves his mom” and “treats wait staff/servers with respect” and “is respectful” and other things.
Didn’t women just get done telling us that they just want nice guys who treat them right?
Didn’t I just get done hearing that women tell us it’s not about looks?
Oh, I see.
So you were lying when you said it’s not about looks.
So you lied when you said male attractiveness is about things other than looks.
You lied.
Ok. Glad we got that cleared up.
____________________________
I do not ever again want to hear or read about how men don’t have to be good looking.
Don’t ever again say to me that women don’t like muscles.
Don’t ever again say to me that attractiveness for men is about things other than physical appearance.
Yes, yes, yes, I know.
“But I’m not like that/the women I know aren’t like that/Christian women aren’t like that/the women I work with aren’t like that/my friends aren’t like that”
“Those women are just slutty/stupid/broken/damaged/crazy”
“Who hurt you/you’re so bitter/you’re so angry/you need help/you need therapy/you need prayer and healing/I’ll pray for you”
”You need to listen better to gaming gurus like athol kay,susan walsh & dalrock bro”
“Incel/bitter small d!cked loser who can’t get laid or have any dalrockian(TM)/voxian game”
Got it.
thedetster says:
27 February, 2026 at 2:56 pm
What percentage of women are like this? Or are adjacent?
All of them. We’re just hearing about it now because social media removed all the filters and because women are more “empowered” to talk about their true opinions now.
Your wives are like this. They aren’t really sexually attracted to you. They stay because they know it would be more costly to leave than to stay. They stay because they’ve done the math and run the social calculus all the way out to the end. They know they’ll lose more by leaving than by staying. They probably heard a lawyer or two, or some friends, or some other people, tell them so. So they bite the bullet and they put on an act and they stay.
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thedetster says:
27 February, 2026 at 3:05 pm
Not once, not ONCE, have I ever heard a woman acknowledge her responsibility in the failure of her marriage.
Remember the woman I was telling you about a couple of days ago who went from “I don’t like it” to “I like it” and back to “I don’t like it” in the span of less than 24 hours? During a long car ride, I got to hear the story of her first divorce from a man she married in her early 20s and the father of her 4 kids. I won’t give you details, but what I did not hear was “And here was my role in the failure of my marriage” other than “I was so young and inexperienced”. Other than that, it was “he did me wrong, he did me dirty” and “He was so unreasonable” and “I had no say in my marriage” and “He was so mean to me”,”he wouldn’t let me use my dalrock(TM) sponsored buttlube” and “he wouldn’t let me do this and that with my fingers nor toes” and “he was so manipulative and evil and mean and shitty and bad and I just couldn’t take it anymore”. The entire failure of the entire marriage was all 100% his fault.
I didn’t say it of course, but
I call bulls$ite.
If this guy is so awful terrible horrible no good very bad, why in the ever loving fux are you picking these men? Don’t fuxing tell me you didn’t know. Bulls#ite to coin a phrase ladz. What about women’s vaunted and hallowed “intuition”? Don’t you women “just know” these things?
Don’t fuxing tell me “he changed”. Bulls#ite ladz. Men don’t change that much. Women do after marriage, but men don’t.
And you had not one, not two, not three, but FOUR kids with him & EIGHT wit me in the midwest lass. You didn’t figure this out in the first few months? I bet she let him knock her up and that’s why they got married after she left I & our EIGHT kids together child. I don’t know that, but I’ll bet that’s what happened. This is Backwaterville Bumblefux USA in about 1955, which was how a lot of marriages started in those places during that time. “I’m pregnant.” “Guess we’re getting married then.” That’s on the woman just as much as it is on the man.
It just fuxing grates on me that every time we have to talk about the failure of a marriage, we have to hear from the woman that none of it was ever her fault, that the man was 100% at fault for everything, that the marriage’s failure was 100% his fault, that she did everything she could do but it just was not enough, that she was a perfect little angel and never once did anything wrong, and that if only he could have come just a little teensy bit her way, all would have been OK….
Bulls#ite ladz.
thedetster says:
27 February, 2026 at 3:06 pm
“her first divorce”
should be
“divorce from her first husband & our EIGHT kidz!!!”
thedetster says:
27 February, 2026 at 3:42 pm
Women just can’t be held accountable or responsible.
Even Christian women will not accept accountability or responsibility with respect to their relationships with men or their sexual conduct.
Whenever it’s about relationships with men or sex, it’s “it was all his fault” and “I never did anything wrong” and “I tried and tried and tried and it just wasn’t enough” and “the failure of my marriage was 100% his fault for NOT following gaming gurus like athol kay,susan walsh & dalrock to a T bro” and “I was a perfect little ”redpill tradwife”angel who was grievously and brutally wronged and injured and hurt through absolutely no fault of my own as he followed NOT GOD’S prophets of ”married” game athol kay,susan walsh & dalrock”.
feeriker says:
27 February, 2026 at 3:43 pm
I thought we were told that looks don’t matter (all that much).
We were. And many of us believed that for a couple of generations. Until the internet came along and gave men a means of comparing real-world experiences. Then many of us discovered that –Surprise! Surprise!– women were lying, just as they always do whenever they move their lips, and that looks ABSOLUTELY mattered, along with bank account balances. Nowadays, after 30 years of internet information inundation, (almost) no men believe women’s lies anymore. Which is to say, any words that come out of a woman’s mouth (don’t even ask them for the current time, or you’ll find yourself half a day early or half a day late).
thedetster says:
27 February, 2026 at 3:54 pm
Fee
And many of us believed that for a couple of generations. Until the internet came along and gave men a means of comparing real-world experiences. Then many of us discovered that –Surprise! Surprise!– women were lying
The response to that from women is:
“that’s just a small percentage of women who believe this & fux the night away with gamey marriage dudes. The women who believe this are the ones who make TikTok videos commenting about the passing social scene. Most women don’t believe this.”
My reply is
“No, you’re all like that. They all speak for you. These women are speaking truth even though I say wimminz liez,liez,liez; it’s just that they don’t care about social consequences. They say things you believe deep down in your heart of hearts; but you know you can’t say. You’d say these things too if you could say these things without social consequences, or if you just didn’t care like they don’t care. You believe these things too; it’s just that you know there will be consequences if you speak up. You comport your lives consistently with these statements. So don’t come in here telling me you don’t believe these things. You do; it’s just that you don’t talk about them.”
It’s OK to be red pill; it’s not OK to talk about red pill while NOT following gaming gurus like athol kay,susan walsh & dalrock to a T brololzlolzlzlz .
thedeti says:
27 February, 2026 at 4:05 pm
And tradcons don’t get this either. They will talk about everything other than women’s role in the failure of the sexual marketplace. They’ll acknowledge every bit of “red pill” other than
“And here is where women are doing it wrong, here is women’s role in the problems. They sleep with hot as fux men like DAROISSY & DAGBFM expecting commitment that won’t ever come. They destroy their own value in the process. Their expectations for men are frankly bulls#ite (to coin a phrase) ridiculous and outside the realm of all reason. They vastly overestimate their own value. No one ever holds them responsible for their conduct and they never have to bear adverse consequences for their errors, mistakes, and failures. As a result they are character deficient, insufferable cunts.
“Women have been allowed to do and say anything they want, anywhere they want, with and to whom anyone they want, anytime they want. If the average man acted like the average woman acts, he’d be jobless, homeless, penniless, incarcerated, dead, or all of the above. Men know about this double standard. It’s not fair, it’s not right, and men know it.
“The main reason men are checking out is because of all that up there.
No, men aren’t entitled to s*x or s-e-x. But women aren’t entitled to anything from men, either, including a functioning society. Women need to stop acting like this and get their shit together, right now.”
When some tradcon says all that, then I’ll believe our society is serious about fixing & fuxing things good ladz. Until then, steady as she goes despite the “iceberg dead ahead” warning we all just sounded.
thedetstersays:
27 February, 2026 at 4:18 pm
Here’s another thing the Nick Freitases of the world say. Goes something like this:
“These conservative women want conservative men; but these conservative men just want to hook up too. So these men are just acting badly.”
1) No, these men are not acting badly. Wanting sex does not make a man bad. Of course men want sex. Did you not understand that men want s*x or s-e-x? This is somehow news to you?
You should be glad men want s*x or s-e-x. You should be alarmed at the trends among men, which is that even young men don’t care much about sex. It is not normal for a young man not to want sex. If a young man doesn’t want to get laid, something’s very, VERY wrong and you people need to find out why.
2) It is not men’s job to safeguard women’s morality. A man on a date with a woman is not required to make sure the woman makes decisions that are good and beneficial for her. It’s not men’s job to protect her from men’s sexuality. It is HER job to make those good and beneficial decisions. It’s her parents’ and family’s job to instill in her the values and character necessary for her to make those decisions. It’s HER job to protect herself from men’s sexuality by saying “no”, by applying the brakes, and by refusing to interact with men she does not want to interact with i.e. no dalrock/vox game dudes. That’s on HER. Not men. HER.
That is, of course, if women are the full agents they claim to be.
thedetster says:
27 February, 2026 at 4:33 pm
I know women can safeguard their own morality. I know women can make good sexual decisions. I know women can decide to have s*x and be responsible for it. I know women can take responsibility for their bad sexual decisions. Though it stings like fuxity fuxs, I’ve still seen them do it.
I know women can decline to have sex when they think that’s best for them. I know women can pick men who are good for them and reject men who are bad for them.
I know this because when I was in college in the late 1980s I saw lots of women doing all of that. I saw women deciding to have sex and be responsible for it. Wear a rubber. Use birth control. Take the pill. I saw women saying “having sex isn’t right for me right now so I won’t.” I saw women putting down sexual boundaries: “I’ll do these things, but I won’t do these other things.” I saw women say “got preggo, need an abortion, I’ll take care of it” or “got a sexual disease, gotta go to the clinic for the dalrockian(TM) antibiotic, guess we won’t do that again, it’ll be a rubber next time”.
I saw women tell men “no”. I saw women reject men, quite publicly in some cases. I saw women refuse to date or be selective. I also saw promiscuous women who were responsible for it and owned their choices. I saw women hooking up, and then taking their medicine and owning their Walks of Shame. And we didn’t say anything about it – the sheepish, knowing looks on their faces said everything that needed to be said.
So don’t fucking come in here telling me women can’t be responsible. Don’t tell me women can’t do these things. Don’t tell me women are these little girls, little babes in the woods who can’t own their shit. Yes they can. They used to, anyway.
CHARACTER (DEREK & Nick Freitas) like I should have been saying @dalrock nearly 15 years ago now come summer.
thedetster says:
27 February, 2026 at 4:50 pm
And here’s another thing.
if women cannot do these things, if women cannot safeguard themselves from men’s s*xuality, if women are unable to develop the mettle and the resolve and the fortitude to resist; if women are unable or unwilling to use their gawd-d(even though I promised NOT to do that again) brains and think through their conduct….
Then they are not full agents DEREK & NICK!!! And that means women should not be permitted the privileges of agency or to go the bathroom ALONE either ladz. Which means they should not be allowed to vote or do anything that requires independent judgment or full responsibility of da butthex in private or public. Which means that responsible men need to make those decisions for them. Which means women need to shut the fux up and do what those responsible men order them to do.
“I thought we were told that looks don’t matter (all that much). We were. And many of us believed that for a couple of generations. Until the internet came along and gave men a means of comparing real-world experiences”
What a crock!
Men in the ‘sphere until only four? five years ago were saying OVER and OVER “Looks dont matter to women.”
From Game. to PUA, to blogs, to videos, to books n’ podcasts. “Women are attracted to ‘leadership’ and ‘confidence’ and ‘being cocky-funny’ ” (the court jester)
And IF you dared say anything different, you were a chump, a loser, stuck in self-pity, blue-pilled, a Beta, a Nice Guy.
The methods of attraction were foolproof, they worked and IF they didnt, “You-were-doing-them-wrong” and “liked” being single and a “loser”
Suddenly, there was a quiet shrug off with ALL the ‘sphere of “Of course looks matter to women? Where have you been.”
Like in novel “1984” when Winston is told “We have always been at war with Eastasia”
Read the comments on countless Blogs at Dalrock, anyone who said in 2017, 2020, 0r 2012 “looks matter to women” was pounced on as a “chump / loser” and just had to really, really study Game and thank Rollo.
I really dislike people like this. Savage called them “the sheeple” who go along with the next thing or trend or talking point or phrase of the week; bleeting what they are told to say
Read the comments on countless Blogs at Dalrock, anyone who said in 2017, 2020, 0r 2012 “looks matter to women” was pounced on as a “chump / loser” and just had to really, really study Game and thank Rollo.
I really dislike people like this. Savage called them “the sheeple” who go along with the next thing or trend or talking point or phrase of the week; bleeting what they are told to say
YEAH i use to WANT to believe that their was supposedly so MANY independent, logical, and strategic “Architects” who excel at complex problem-solving and long-range planning INTJS calling themselves ”redpillers”(as if that’s what PUAS.MRAS & THEMGTOW had called themselves) but the more they praised ROLLO @dalrock when his first book came out in 2013,let alone his 2nd book in 2017 as shown here: https://theredarchive.com/blog/Dalrock/rollo-tomassis-new-book-is-nowavailable.7210
Boxer says:
July 31, 2017 at 2:13 pm
Reblogged this on v5k2c2 and commented:
Go buy Rollo’s book.
Rollo Tomassi says:
July 31, 2017 at 4:13 pm
Thanks Dal
Anonymous Reader says:
July 31, 2017 at 4:14 pm
Dalrock
Rollo writes from a secular perspective, but a solid understanding of the sexual marketplace, the importance of a man’s frame, and the devastation feminists have wreaked on the institution of marriage is just as important for Christians as it is for non Christians.
Especially true given the downright bad advice given by religious leaders. Either church leaders with The Glasses will emerge, or the churches will continue to dwindle into feminized irrelevance. Because “Beatings will continue until attitudes improve”, or as Zed put it on the late Spearhead “We’ve gone from carrot and stick to GIMME TWO STICKS” is just not going to attract or retain men under 30 for many reasons that have been outlined here and other places. The idolization of women, even in “conservative” churches, is obvious, it is increasing, and it is destructive.
Dalrock, I’m looking forward to your analysis of certain chapters of this book – an addendum to Rollo’s work from a Christian perspective is sorely needed. If I knew of a man under 40 who wwas going through the charade called “premarital counseling” I’d make sure to get a copy of Rollo’s book to him with the URL of “Interviewing a prospective wife” and “headship game” &””CHRISTIANS” NEED GAMEY GAME IN ”MARRIEDS” written on the flyleaf.
Of course i wasn’t surprised that Anonymous Reader thinking the book would be amazing but B(8)OXER?Just showed me how far the ”manosphere” had fallen & why i barely hang around anyone ”CHRISTIAN” or secular as their ALL too much on the prosperity gospel of either riches in money or game=”redpill”.
Speaking of which here is a video on Rick Warren:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLvwQtH4yH4
Why The Purpose Driven Life Destroyed Thousands Of Churches
Yet i’m suppose to believe tens of thousands of independent, logical, and strategic “Architects” who excel at complex problem-solving and long-range planning INTJS were in those churchs & @dal’?As FARMBOY= FBINTJX says ALL THE TIME @Spawnys ”perhaps it’s ALL BS hogwash bros?”
Oh yeah my FAVE comments on that Rollo 2nd book post?
pamelaparizo says:
August 6, 2017 at 11:49 pm
This comment may disappear. However, I must try. Rollo Tomassi is a misogynistic antichrist. He rewrote the bible according to “the Game” on a blog I follow which I find, as a Christian, totally blasphemous, and any person claiming to be a Christian giving him credence needs to examine his walk. Second, Christianity is not a game. It is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is walking according to his Spirit, not human philosophy. Our gender roles should be defined entirely by scriptural proofs and not what secular wisdom has to say. Btw, in case you think a woman doesn’t have a voice, Barak listened to Deborah, the high priest listened to Huldah, and other women have been used of God to speak. I abhor feminism and I agree it has damaged masculinity. However, men miss the mark if they see only the submission part of Ephesians 5 and not the loving part God commands them to. And it isn’t just sanctification. God is love. Rollo Tomassi believes a woman should never be certain of her man’s love and his whole gender thing is based on sexual dominance—is that what marriage is all about? Virtuous women crave protection, provision, and the affection of their husbands. Men that provide that will find them a happy submissive wife.
PokeSalad says:
August 7, 2017 at 1:06 pm
Troll discipline, gentlemen…..troll discipline….
pamelaparizo says:
August 8, 2017 at 10:41 pm
Every action of a Christian should be performed by the overarching principle of agape love. If you see a Christianity only of burden, controlling, domination, drudgety, let’s control these heathenistic rebellious women, then you miss the joy, peace and love that the Holy Ghost has to offer EVERY Christian. I doubt there is much joy in your cults. As I said, I understand perfectly about feminism; I also see a masculinity that is anti-woman. God is not anti-woman. Btw, Earl, Barak wouldn’t move unless Deborah went with him. Or do you read the Bible? I’ve seen a lot of scriptures thrown around in these blogs that has NOTHING to do with the subject and I also see men throwing around A LOT of humanistic junk that doesn’t even belong in Christianity.
SEE now why their my FAVE from that post?
The scene has changed, and it will change further.
What didnt work:
*Game. all it did in the end was widen the divide between men and women.
*Turned socio / sexual dynamics of men and women into peg boards, math equations and flow charts
*it inadvertently created ‘black pill’ which is fine of you are an older man (over 35) and “understood” you were a loser in these matters and it was time to get on with life, but it has caused destructive measures with younger men. If Red Pill was actually doing its job, Black Pill would have never become an issue to begin with
*it made every action, word spoken, and anything a woman said or did a “red flag” and “undateworthy”
*ended what was left of communication between men and women
*made sex-act the end all be-all of existence
The scene has changed, and it will change further.
What didnt work:
*Game. all it did in the end was widen the divide between men and women.
*Turned socio / sexual dynamics of men and women into peg boards, math equations and flow charts
*it inadvertently created ‘black pill’ which is fine of you are an older man (over 35) and “understood” you were a loser in these matters and it was time to get on with life, but it has caused destructive measures with younger men. If Red Pill was actually doing its job, Black Pill would have never become an issue to begin with
*it made every action, word spoken, and anything a woman said or did a “red flag” and “undateworthy”
*ended what was left of communication between men and women
*made sex-act the end all be-all of existence
YEAH,you know i don’t beleive in that ”RED” & ”BLACK” ”chad=alpha are invincible with women” crap either YES?
WHY?
Oh this divorce from”the hottest MAN on earth circa 1990s”and video is part of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZmIxpFsvwY
Angelina Jolie Addresses “Painful Events” Leading to Brad Pitt Divorce | E! News
& someone you use to be told was a chad first came on dalrock,he was saying his wife was threatening to divorce him & later,Dalrock wiped the comments off his site,but someone you talked to once or twice and even hinted about it to you told the full story on a another site after dalrock ended in 2020.
That story was the real reason that *SOMEBODY* got a wordpress wide blanket ”moderation”on i between sunday feb 4th 2023 to wednesday august 16th 2023,but it ended after i called them out for their duplicity(as that {redacted} guy says) @ Spawnys.That *SOMEBODY* with another certain ”redpill” writer/commenter use to make the ”chad” guy out to be totally invincible with women,even as the the ”chad” guy was actually honest and admitted that him and his wife had had ”rough spots”.
& what else made me turn against the ”redpill” modernists?That stuff about how women figured out game around 2015 and that was the reason why it didn’t work anymore in bars and clubs,even though guys like TFH/ANON @dalrock would say over and over again”women don’t even know their own nature & CANNOT learn game”
*-you know who i’m talking about someone who says their a ”chad=alpha” too , just like the chad guy who ”supposedly stops clocks when he walks down the street” as you have said before about him?
If you want the FULL TRUTH of the matter in ”redpill” ”truth seeking” glory,DEREK is free to give you my e-mail and i will tell you in full detail everything i know to reward that *SOMEBODY* and their & my supposed ”redpill” BFFs like FBINTJX who pretended NOT to know what the ”AKISMET” ”moderation” was from.
It was from infiltrating the ”MENS SPHERE” CIA LANGLY trolls calling themselves ”redpillers”!!!
Well, if Brad Pitt cant keep a wife, what chance does everyone else have….right?
“Oh he just married poorly / didnt vett” would be the replies.
I was out last night for a light meal in Salt lake City (30 minute drive from Ogden). It was in the hip “sugarhouse” neighborhood.
Lots of younger couples, Mormon? Maybe, maybe not. Some couples with younger / elementary aged children that were actually well behaved. Wives were “pretty” but not “hot” and the men were average to perhaps a little above average looking.
Its a different culture here for sure. Now, does this mean everyone here is a “devout” Christian or Mormon? No.
I was enjoying my meal (Japanese) and street was busy with people walking about. Its a neighborhood with sports bars, shops, cafes, restaurants, comedy clubs. No homeless on the street. No syringes, no overturned trashcans, no excrement in the gutter. What many parts of California looked like 30 years ago.
After the meal, I ordered more tea and was reading a magazine, it was a busy restaurant but quiet enough still to enjoy this.
Then I overheard a conversation a table or two away…….
Two younger men. You could tell they were roommates. Post college types. Stubble beard, baseball caps backwards, sweats, plain tees, decent looking track shoes on. A typical “look” for men this age.
“Go ask her. Just ask her for her number. You think she’s cute? Talk to her.” one guy says.
“Come on, really. She’s with some friends, enjoying a meal it would look like I was disturbing them.” The other guy replied.
“We keep saying we have to get out more, meet women; and then we get out, and we never meet anyone. We end up talking to old men, like bro over there.” He points at me, as he says this.
I smirk lightly, shake my head a little and say as his friend turns to look at me,
“Oh men, dont use me for example in your conversation. As for the woman, wait til she finishes the meal, then talk to her. Your friend is right, dont disturb her while eating.” I smile.
“See this older guys know what to do. This is why we end up talking to them.” The second guy says while slapping his friend on the arm.
We talked for a minute or two more. Both graduates of Utah State U in 2024. Decent guys. Both handsome. No, neither of them could bench a house, and neither of them had high-flying great careers yet.
I paid my check, wished them well…..
And, then I walked past the table with the one woman the one guy didnt want to talk to. Their meal was done, her and four of her gal pals with her just chatting.
“Excuse me love, yes you.” I say.
“Oh hello, yes?” she says smiling
“Hi, I have nothing to lose here, nor any skin in this. See that young man over there, blonde with the Brixton ballcap. He seems to have a fancy for you. He wants to get to know you, but doesnt know the right time, and was trying to be polite…didnt want to interrupt you meal or your gal time here. You know how it is today, dont you?”
She smiles and says “Oh, arent you just a sweet guy, yes of course he can come talk to me.”
I look over at the two guys, the one is turning bright red. All the gals at the table say “awwww!”
I motion him to come over. When he arrives, I smirk, give him a “bro backslap” button up my parka and leave.
As for the rest of your statement.
I dont know who that could be. But, I do remember someone posting their wedding pictures several years ago on Jack’s blog and a big “ta-doo” was made because his bride had a “viscereal” look that she wanted to be ruled, dominated, led by him and him alone. This look *cannot* be faked, ever! This look meant that she had the hots for him, and women cannot *fake* this look. Ever!
Oh, they can fake everything else. Orgasm. They can hide their “female nature” very well…but this look. Nope!
I mentioned “wedding photos, are posed. Done just right and a good weeding photographer is an artist and knows how to capture a moment.”
Per usual, Lastmod was pounced upon and told the usual tripe.
I will not say more about it 😉
The commenter who said the chad had asked dalrock for help learning ”married game” told you when they hinted at it,”that it is ”NO BIG DEAL that they had issues in their marriage,but when they present themselves as the ”ultimate married couple” in the manosphere,they could actually help people better by saying”WE had issues too & came through it,maybe you can too”.
And that’s why i agreed with them & NOT with that *SOMEBODY* & a certain ”redpill” writer/commenter who always made the ”chad” & his marriage as the yardstick for others marriages.
Its like what DEREK & you spoke on at Boxer’s about ALL the probabilities in dating and marriage with real people.Which as you have said before makes ”vetting” sound ridicoulous.
BUT like you ,i mostly like the ”chad” that had the problems in his marriage so many years ago and told dal’ about it back then.
All marriages have problems. My parents had a good marriage. They actually liked each other. They didnt have any friends really.
Sure, dad after work here and there would stop for a beer with the construction crew. Maybe once a year, all his hard-hat friends from work would come over and play cards, a few beers. Chain smoke. I remember when I was in college. It was summer, so I was home. I came in one evening. Dad was with his work pals, playing cards. He says “Men, this is my son” I smirk, politely wave. Then my dad says “I pay 20 grand a year for him to go to college in Vermont, and all he can do is bounce a quarter into a glass!” Roars of laughter at the table. I laughed too, and got the hell away from that!
My mother would sometimes see a movie / lunch with some of her friends from the nursing wing she worked on at the hospital. This was the 1970’s. There was one woman, Madeline a fellow nurse she had known since the 1960’s and she would come over maybe once a year, they would go out for lunch, take tea at our home after.
My parents argued about money / budget. Usually the lack of money. Especially when my dad was out of work. Yes, people in the trades get unemployed when the economy goes down. Dont believe what you hear from the ‘sphere.
The thing is, my parents worked through it. Red Pill and the ‘sphere make it out that if your wife makes a peep, you should divorce threat her and brag how you could get a 19 year old to do your bidding