Here is the primary reason that I started anonymizing certain quotations and ultimately withdrew from the Manosphere and from specific commenters:
I’m sure you can back up that assertion with a quote of mine, because otherwise it might look like you’re exactly the kind of person I’m describing: fixed beliefs, zero evidence, inventing grievances to justify a desire to silence people who say things you don’t like.
This is how a single normie blue-pilled man like Charlie Kirk could have significantly greater reach and impact than pretty much every red-pilled man combined. The validity of the message doesn’t matter when the delivery system is flawed.
Practically nobody wants to murder red-pilled men. The crazies barely ever think about red-pilled men at all. Men like us don’t matter. We are nothing and our opinions don’t mean squat.
They didn’t pick Manosphere icon Andrew Tate to murder, they picked Charlie Kirk. The crazies want to murder someone like J.K. Rowling—who is pejoratively called a TERF—because she has the gall to engage in rational debate by citing evidence and engaging in rational debate.
Saint Dalrock lived in fear and so hid his identity. Unlike Kirk or Rowling, Saint Dalrock wouldn’t even “deadname” for fear of the consequences.
Relevant to the topic https://www.jpost.com/international/article-867898
ByDANIELLE GREYMAN-KENNARD
SEPTEMBER 18, 2025 13:05
TV channel Comedy Central pulled a South Park episode featuring a parody of Charlie Kirk after the conservative activist was assassinated earlier this month.
Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA, was shot while speaking at an event at Utah Valley University this month, dying shortly after being rushed to the hospital.
The free speech advocate, who had shared on Instagram his joy at being included in the notorious animated series, was parodied by the character Eric Cartman in the episode ‘Got a nut.’
The episode originally ran in August but was scheduled to rerun on the 17th of September, though Comedy Central decided to pull the episode. It is still available on demand and on Paramount+.
In the episode, Cartman, a character known for his negative commentary on Jews and other minority groups, mimicked Kirk’s podcast and campus debates.
“The ‘South Park’ episode just dropped, and honestly, it is hilarious,” Kirk said after watching the episode. “Part of it is kind of like, whatever, typical humor, but it was hilarious. Just watch this little snippet of our ‘Prove Me Wrongs,’ our viral, cultural domination on primetime on Comedy Central – so important, so impactful that ‘South Park’ is highlighting. Watch.”
He also frequently shared clips from the episode on his social media and made his X profile pic an image of Cartman dressed as him.
Andrew Kolvet, executive producer of The Charlie Kirk Show, said that Kirk would want the episode to go ahead.
See how Charlie said he liked the episode from last month- i thought it was a new episode, WHY? Back when South Park first came out in late 97-’99-the SP creators would especially put down Mormons(mainly Mormon girls) in interviews, NOT the show. Which is why i thought they would do a new episode based around the Utah shooting.
”illiberal” our old friend Lexetlaw/blog on an early 2021 SF post said he didn’t know what that meant(from some political blogger saying it, other than Savage, GUNNERq & Henry Makow,i don’t read political-based blogs or most news), but i did just from listening to DR.
Michael Savage’s radio show for over a decade almost every weeknight.
The validity of the message doesn’t matter when the delivery system is flawed.
Practically nobody wants to murder red-pilled men. The crazies barely ever think about red-pilled men at all. Men like us don’t matter. We are nothing and our opinions don’t mean squat.
YEAH!But ”good guys” who think the ”red pill” is God’s word instead of the Scriptures & the gospel/law of CHRIST,(cry) & think ”YOU’RE RUINING OUR MOVEMENT “- Never mind it ceased being huge & largely relevant nearly a decade ago after the bluepilled soccerdads ruined it. That’s why they loved Andrew Tate, thinking he could bring in the young MEN like ROISSY & GBFM once did between 2007 and ’13, but they( ROISSY & GBFM ) weren’t young MAN-hating con artist hacks like Tate.
Update from Pseudonoymous Commenter on feral MEN!
I don’t know that thugs and gangsters are feral. I suppose so, in the sense that they have no respect for the rule of law.
I don’t know that thugs and gangsters are feral. I suppose so, in the sense that they have no respect for the rule of law.
As I’ve said, I’ve done everything blue pillers told me to do. I was nice. I was kind. I was a regular Boy Scout (literally and figuratively). I gave of myself, I helped others, I went to church, I prayed. And I really believed. I really did, because I believed they had the knowledge and experience to give sound advice.
Except, they didn’t. They had been prepared for a sexual and relationship marketplace that last existed in the vaunted 1950s. They had absolutely no idea what was going on. And they thought and believed adherence to Christian tenets was a reprieve from human nature. And taught me that.
And I got utterly and completely shit on and destroyed for it. By literally everyone around me (yes, I mean literally everyone). My parents. My siblings. My peers, so-called “friends”, mentors, pastors, scout leaders, civic leaders, teachers. My wife. My inlaws. My extended family. Literally every single adult I knew lied to me and steered me away from people who were trying to tell me the truth, and then shit all over me merely for asking the questions.
For 40 years.
So, no, I don’t have a lot of patience for people who are still trying to tell me I somehow “got it wrong” and that I have a “fixed belief system” with “zero evidence”. If my belief system were so fixed, I would not have even considered anything red pilled. I could consider it only because blue pill wasn’t working.
I don’t know. I don’t know that CK talked a lot about his own marriage. His attitude from what I can tell is that men should marry early and pretty much give their wives whatever they want while having few to no expectations of their wives.
Kirk’s position was simply “get married and have lots of children”.
I didn’t hear that he talked much about husbands having authority over their wives. (Don’t tell you-know-who any of that.)
Kirk’s position was the same as current tradcons and his voxness from what I can tell:
“Marriage is a minefield and you could get completely destroyed by it if your wife just decides to leave you and take your kids and steal everything you’ve earned and destroy everything you’ve built. You have no right to anything in your marriages. You get absolutely nothing from marriage.
“You need to do it anyway because women need you to do it; your country needs you to do it; and your world needs you to do it. You are obligated to save Western civilization!”
No. If you want me to do all that, I need to get something that I want in return for it and my society has to have my back.
Otherwise, no.
What is Pseudonoymous Commenter forgeting above? That he and said DAL’ preached “Marriage is a minefield and you could get completely destroyed by it if your wife just decides to leave you and take your kids and steal everything you’ve earned and destroy everything you’ve built. You have no right to anything in your marriages. You get absolutely nothing from marriage.
“You need to do it anyway because women need you to do it; your country needs you to do it; and your world needs you to do it. You are obligated to save Western civilization!” -BUT with game as Vox used to emphasize also! As DAL once said
””As I’ve mentioned before, women delaying marriage are playing a collective game of chicken in order to avoid wasting any more of their youth and fertility on their husbands than absolutely necessary.”
Conclusion?
Pseudonoymous Commenter is now a blackish ”redpiller” hence why he now says
Otherwise, no.”
He, better than most knows ”tradcon” game as preached by VOX & saint DAL was “Marriage is a minefield and you could get completely destroyed by it if your wife just decides to leave you and take your kids and steal everything you’ve earned and destroy everything you’ve built. You have no right to anything in your marriages. You get absolutely nothing from marriage.
“You need to do it anyway because women need you to do it; your country needs you to do it; and your world needs you to do it. You are obligated to save Western civilization!” BUT Pseudonoymous Commenter is now very angry that game didn’t save the world & doesn’t want to admit he was wrong, like a now anti-Anabaptist, ex-Mennonite ”redpill” troll that comes around Derek’s site.
Update on how Kirk was really ”redpilled” But NOT obviously so,as the world is NOT ready for the redpill from FB=Farm Boy!
Farm Boy says:
18 September, 2025 at 3:45 pm
Maybe CK was not obviously red pill because the world is not precisely ready for the red pill
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CP says:
18 September, 2025 at 3:50 pm
“Maybe CK was not obviously red pill because the world is not precisely ready for the red pill”
Or maybe he was blue pill and hadn’t yet been mugged. And if this were the case, I still have no desire to celebrate his assassination or regard it as an unfortunate necessity.
“You see, it CAN be done!”
MYRON from the vs Ben Shapiro wat)on anecdotal evidence at 4:05 doesn’t necessarily reflect reality or the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVeR0TnsFus
Myron Red Pilled Young Simp On The Reality Of Modern Women!
Surfdumb comes out swinging (in full conquer & divide mode) against Feral fellas AKA Bellvuian ”RPGenius” ”leaders”!
surfdumb says:
18 September, 2025 at 4:43 pm
Feral fellas AKA Bellvuian ”RPGenius” ”leaders” . Unless I’m endangered by one, I don’t think about it? Why, because men can be reasoned with, and when they can’t forcefully consequences often provides a satisfactory closure.
Feral women can’t be reasoned with and a forceful consequence only provides an unsatisfactory conclusion.
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surfdumb says:
18 September, 2025 at 4:50 pm
Regarding the use of force for feral folks. It’s the difference between insane asylums and prisons. Women used to get the asylums, but those were all closed.
Do any of you still get stunned that, a relatively new, platform of successful politicians include letting feral men AKA Bellvuian ”RPGenius” ”leaders” out of prison, or keeping them out of it. Even though I know it’s an enemy action, I’m still stunned over it.
For example. Mamdani wanting to free feral men, AKA Bellvuian ”RPGenius” ”leaders”, and yet looking like a majority of the voters will choose that.
People used to fight enemies, now we vote and cheer for them to have authority over us as Bellvuian ”RPGenius” ”leaders”.
It was an area I disagreed with him on (Kirk)
Many clips over the years. No, not all….no, not most. But a decent amount
Paraphrasing
“Men become men when they find a wife / get married / have a family”
He married a model. So, if he can do it. So can you!
Mind you he forgot about Jesus, Paul, and others great and small over the centuries who did “great things” for the kingdom / cause of Christ who were not married. Were not fathers.
Plenty of men who are fathers are terrible parents. Also, just because you “go to church” well, that doesnt make you a Christian either. Just because you are a “father” well, that doesnt make you a “good” person by default.
Odd still from Red Pill……
They love to post pictures / memes of “The future is for those who show up”
And that picture / meme; there is ALWAYS a lean jawed man, with a whipped-top of good hair. Tall too! His wife always blonde, perfect body and the three, four, five children with nice teeth. Picture perfect.
At the same time. They TELL men. “Nope, no good women. If she kissed a boy at 16, throw her to the curb. She’s going to upsur your authority! / You need to talk to her father in order to date her, no father? Nope! She’s evil! Red flag! She will upsur your authority and sleep with your best friend / She is a little overweight. Nope! Real women are 86 lbs soaking wet, she has no self control. Huge red flag! / She was pressured to have sex with a college boyfriend….she’s a 304. Shame her in front of her friends (neg)”
It goes on. This duality, this bi-polar behavior is puzzling. Confusing.
Yeah, he was a 6’5″ (99th percentile) man who married a 5’8″ (93rd percentile) Miss Arizona! He was giving her a job interview and he said “I can’t hire you because I want to date you.” If a normal man did that, he’d probably get sued. Instead he got a wife and two kids.
We never heard a peep out her until his sad, and tragic funeral.
But wait…now…..now every conservative believes “she is the one” to carry on his legacy!!! And “dont you dare say a disparaging word! She can do it!”
She is going to go to college campuses and debate students with the same intellect, bravado, confidence, assuredness and aptitude that her late husband did?
Really? Conservatives believe this??
It was like many Democrats in 2020 saying “michelle obama should be president! she should run!”
Really? We hardly heard a peep out of her unless she spoke at a college graduation and it was always the same speech. She wasnteven half the politican her husband was. Yet, it was “its her turn!” nonsense, thankfully they gave us Joe Biden. The memes wrote themselves with him
To be fair, they are in the unenviable position of having nobody to replace him. The next closest person of similar nature is Ben Shapiro, but, as a Jew, he won’t be preaching the gospel of Jesus.
There are men who are even better at debate than Charlie Kirk was, but none of them precisely hold the correct political views, the good looks, or the political connections.
What this means, at the end of the day, is that the shooter “won” by taking down an irreplaceable figure. It’s not her fault she isn’t going to be able to replace him.
THIS is why MRS. Charlie Kirk should run things with evidence!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q9MLmPdnT8g
Charlie Kirk & MRS. Charlie Kirk here reminds me of myself and my two FAVE gfs-wives ever in my life.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ehD7bd-nl0s
See how it was mutual instead of one-sided( a supposed ”male” worshipping a natural defiler) -your average ”redpill” ”RPGenius” ”leader” Simp Frame Goddess Worshipper?