On the Use of Honorifics - Derek L. Ramsey

In “Papal Primacy in the First Councils, Part 7,” I stated:

Derek L. Ramsey

I now highlight that McCready calls him “Pope Saint Leo the Great.” This is quite a mouthful. I bring this up because effusive praise is not excellent grounds for an unbiased presentation. It would be one thing to quote the epideictic and panegyrical styles of the Councils of Ephesus and Chalcedon as the tradition of the times. It would be quite another for a modern man to try to imitate that style unironically.

Well, it turns out this is not a unique phenomenon.

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The Presbytery Inn

Protestantism didn’t arrive in 1517. Celtic Christians were already saying “The Pope of Rome hath no jurisdiction in this realm” in the 6th century.

St Columbanus in a letter to Boniface IV:

The position which Columbanus took up was substantially this—’Your jurisdiction as Bishop of Rome doesn ot extend beyond the limits of the Roman Empire. I am a missionary from a church of God among the Barbarians, and, though temporarily within the limits of your territorial jurisdiction and bound to regard you with respect and deference, I claim the right to follow the customs of my own church handed down to us by our fathers.’

Andrew Bylar

Come on man. He prays “the holy Pope, his Father“, to direct towards him “the strong support of his authority, to transmit the verdict of his favour”. He apologizes “for presuming to argue as it were, with him who sits in the chair of Peter, Apostle and Bearer of the Keys“.

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Dissident South

It’s pedantically fallacious to cite honorifics.

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