Under my article “On Suffering“, Jack made this comment where he kindly asked me where to put my words. So I responded that he was trying to put words into my mouth by telling me what to do, a thing that he does often.
Over on his blog, Jack had summarized…
…and I responded…
…so it was with the extra special irony that I noticed Jack’s recent exchange with ArchAngel:
It is annoying when someone falsely accuses you of putting words in another mouth, isn’t it? It is made worse when all you were doing the whole time is analyzing another person’s work and giving your own assessment in your own words and you don’t even necessarily disagree. Why can’t people just see that? (Ahem) Well, at least nobody called Jack a liar or asked for an apology.
My frustration with various blogs and bloggers is this double-standard. Although I’ll share my critiques and analyses, I’m not trying to make enemies with anyone. If I attacked someone accidentally, I reword my statements when it is pointed out. I’ll own up to hostility if I’m guilty, but, when they repeatedly make personal attacks and false statements and nobody says or does a thing, it’s the blog itself that is hostile, not me.
If Jack @ Sigma Frame wants me as “an ally in the faith and a worthy opponent in debate,” then a good start would be to stop treating me like an enemy.
Like the ‘sphere has been to most MEN thgat have been in it over the last decade+.
This heavilly started once the three main groups in the ‘sphere , the MGTOWS,MRAS &gamers were told to give up their ”axioms”and become ”redpillers” as to pull in ”new recruits and save society” back around ’13-’15.All it did was destroy the ‘sphere as at least half of it decided it was now ”black pill” which had been growing as a ”movement” quietly for years-even before the term first hit at dalrock in late 2011.
Also Spawny/Cheque d’Out at spawnyspace told sharkly back in May ’22 that what he essentially did with keep telling Liz she”sinned”and chasing her away from his site was black pilled,the ‘sphere itself created the black pillers by calling them ”the enemy” and later after it’s all over with ask ”what happened?”
”What happened” is that they don’t really like their fellow MAN as MOD always says too.
Their definition of God is their God.
I’m a terrible writer. Jacks words. Okay, I could agree. I mean, I am only “average” in my life intelligence wise. So he did take the liberty of editing my comments for “clarity” at times. Which….was well, “okay” by me I suppose
Once, I did point out that what he “made clear” was not my point, he brushed it off “it means the same thing”
It really didnt to the situation that was being discussed. But what do I know? Nothing. So, I just put up with it, and more than few times, my edited comment was “spliced” by you-know-who and taken out of context. It was funny, this person should have been attacking Jack, he was the one who “made my comment” clear.
Never once did he say “Ahem, I was the one who edited this comment. I can anser your question.”
AS for the whole mentality of “do what I say and not what I do” is a common theme over there. None of them did what they tell young men to do when THEY were getting a wife, or married, or dating. Why? Because they all would still be single now if they tried to follow their own advice.
Dont like your dander get up over this Derek. haters gonna hate. Red Pill is their “religion” not “following Jesus” and def not holding and using the Bible as a mirror to their own shortcomings, sins and expectations
I went back to Sigma Frame to comment on this article and I thought it was going great, with my comments getting lots of likes (which rarely happens!), until ArchAngel went off on me.
I had made an argument about circular reasoning and the logical consequence of it (which he didn’t understand), so he called it nonsense. So I responded by saying that if logic is nonsense, then we have no common ground from which to communicate.
But it turns out I had inadvertently insulted him…
…so I apologized, but I guess the damage was done. I’m not really sure why he felt the need to return an insult about the princess and the “no point” comment. I literally just said in the OP:
How different it was in 2020 here when AngloSaxon, Deep Strength, Novaseeker, eutrapelia2001, and redeemedbeliever were all willing to actually have a conversation. All of these are gone, replaced by a crowd that thinks “Attack, Attack, Atack!!” Now if we tried the same thing, Oscar would say he could hear a hissing snake, Deti would stir things up, and ArchAngel would live up to his divine name by calling whatever I had to say “nonsense.”
I wanted to repair the damage, and I really thought this time things would be different. Then I tried to the honorable thing. Maybe I should do as you do and leave for good.
I like the comments of surfdumb and Bardelys (on Sigma Frame and here), but I’m pretty sure they only visit my blog because you are here. They seem to dislike talking to me, which is understandable. I think when you finally leave, everyone else will leave (except for the professor, who appears to be unreasonably extremely loyal).
Normally I avoid stuff like this, but the evidence is growing that Sharkly views himself as having absolute certainty and being totally correct and morally superior. I definitely have not misrepresented precisely how judgmental Sharkly has become. Here he is doubling down:
Plus, I have demonstrated on many occasions that his extreme confidence is unfounded.
And that’s the state of things.
“How different it was in 2020 here when AngloSaxon, Deep Strength, Novaseeker, eutrapelia2001, and redeemedbeliever were all willing to actually have a conversation. All of these are gone, replaced by a crowd that thinks “Attack, Attack, Atack!!”
You have it exact. I miss Novaseeker most. And I think I can guess why he left.
I doubt anyone from Sigma or Dalrock comes here because I am here. Im “bitter / angry / a loser / blinded by blue pill thinking / put women on a pedestal / a cuckservative / I am puposely trying to get men to leave the or renounce the faith”
Like all bullies and tough guys……..Im easy to slap down, put a label on, bully and push around. When I defend myself, they are the first to run to the teacher / adult in the room and “tattle” and get me “banned” or “shadow banned” and put on “moderation”(basically they become “the bratty little sister”that Game says they are to address and speak to women…..all Game methods are NEVER used on women, they are ALWAYS used on percieved weaker or Beta men)
Usually though, the whole place gets their instructions to gang up from different directions to make me look the fool or silly or dumb.
Thing is, in their eyes, Im already that. I also noticed when the rare female commenters like Liz, Elspeth were on the comment stream…..many of the commenters had to do this to me to try to impress them of how they are “putting weak men” in line and they themselves are real, confident, strong, masculine men (White Knighting / posturing)
Best to stay off there, unless indeed….you are invited to post or comment on a topic.
People from SF that came here, including Cameron232, surfdumb, and Bardelys, have all stated that they appreciate your words, and I believe you are a large part of why they comment here (though Cameron seems to have left). I also looked over my comment history, and the following men have offered apologies to people they believe that they have truly wronged: Gunner Q, Cameron232, surfdumb, and myself. Even Sharkly apologized for a minor breach in etiquette. I probably missed some more. I believe that both Cameron232 and surfdumb apologized to you specifically. Humility is a nice trait to have.
But since this is my blog, I want to be clear that I appreciate you being here. We can leave it at that.
I am certain that many of the newer posters here and here because of you, Jason.
Cameron is probably too busy now (and he is wise to stay out of the meatspace I’m sure it is better for his psyche). **
He hasn’t posted any where regularly as far as I know.
**…see the newest argument on whether women love men for “who they are” or “what they do” from my perspective we are what we do. How many times have I said (about my man) “this is who he is” (“by their fruits we should know them” Matthew 7:16)
But let’s play this crappy little game and noodle.
Assume for argument’s sake men love (“their”) women for “who they are”
…that plays very well into “I’m a special snowflake and you must love me the same if I beat the kids, weigh 400 pounds, crap on the couch…it’s just me being my awesome authentic self!!” Does this happen?
Deti explains the act of “loving a woman for who she is”a soft landing, a respite from the world’s cruelties. She is cheerfulness, optimism, and a reminder that it’s all going to be OK because she’s there”…
well, I hate to tell him but those are actions. Actions make her that soft landing and support in life’s storms, not “who she is” as a collection of chemicals. Her character is shown by her actions.
But let’s go further into this stupid little game:
If men are “loved” only for their actions, are they “hated” only for their actions also? Are women then “hated” for what they are? Because there are a whole lot of examples I could reference in the sphere where I’ve recieved a whole lot of hateration based not on my actions but what the person assumes me to be.
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Going to stay offline for a while now. This is a bad time. Take care.
Just to add (I didn’t read BtM’s post when I posted, well said and see Jason! people are here for you).
Mike just told me yesterday he is grateful to me. Why? Because of my actions.
If I made life terrible, his life would be very different. I am in turn grateful to him because “of who he is” which is demonstrated by his actions…which are the result of his exceptional character.
I think with 32 years of marriage through lots of trials and tribulations I at least have a modicum of experience in this matter.
I’ve said all this before, to receive mockery.
I doubt I will be mocked for saying it here. So thank you for your tolerance, Derek.
Have a blessed Easter.
I come here for several reasons. One of them is that Jason and GBFM are here. Another is that this place is much quieter than the other places. Like anywhere else, I agree with some of Derek’s thoughts and disagree with others. Unlike some, I don’t expect anyone to agree with me fully. God would not make us all different if we were supposed to have a monolith on ideas.
Jason, your thoughts are valuable because you 1) understand the scriptures at a high level and 2) are human. You have your strengths and faults and you don’t run from them. You don’t pretend to have all the answers or present yourself as greater than you are. One of you is more valuable than 10,000 wannabe red-pill “alphas”. I hope someday you are able to understand and internalize that.
”Unlike some, I don’t expect anyone to agree with me fully. God would not make us all different if we were supposed to have a monolith on ideas.”
YES ideas or forms as Plato called them, GBFM is essentially the higher form(or some might say ”better angels”) of the collective knowledge of MAN, in one interpretation of GBFM you could say the his early versions’ purpose in the ‘sphere was to ask others ”are you sure your ideas=forms are correct?”
But when i first decided to bring him back around September ’19-when i first wanted to contact DEREK(it got postponed for over a year because of other things happenng in my life) i thought GBFM should be highly knowledgible as usual but the main emphasis should be on brotherly love(it still is) which was not well recived by a few and definitely didn’t go over so well with the ”wannabe red-pill “alphas” in ’21.
Also” One of them is that Jason and GBFM are here.”
Thank you BARDelys!
You better than most seem to get what MOD & i are saying about the ‘sphere and life-in-general-which is similar to what DEREK says too(which i first noticed back in summer ’19 @Boxers blog) .
“Categorically inferior”
I dont’ understand the gratuitous images of idols displaying their genitals in that post.
Kind of reminds me of some of the weirder youth group meetings I was dragged into as a teen.
usually baptists. They typically spent a great deal of time subjecting the audience to outrageous satanic material all as a “warning” so we would know what is out there, of course.
Looked up one of the images and another similar one, with a large phallus in the process of…um, well, children read this I’ll just say it was an unnatural act with itself.
I suppose since it had a phallus this is a type of patriarchal expression, by the same reasoning?
That was rhetorical, I really don’t want to know.
Hoping this was an April fools thing.
One can hope. Hope you (and everyone else here) had a good Easter.
It was. 🙂
Thank you, hope you and yours had a good Easter also.
The Easter service was good and the food was delicious and well-varied (it helps having a multiracial extended family).
If y’all are referring to the images I posted, they were “Sheela na gig”. They were often placed above the entrances to churches. They illustrate that the church’s cunt-worship/fertility-worship is not only a recent feminist invention. It was iconically carved in stone above the entrances of many churches and cathedrals. No doubt it was not a mere coincidence that the female figure was shown holding her opening wide open directly above the opening to so many churches.
Wikipedia says: “A sheela na gig is a figurative carving of a naked woman displaying an exaggerated vulva. These carvings, from the Middle Ages, are architectural grotesques found throughout most of Europe on cathedrals, castles, and other buildings.”
Here is one shown at the Abbey of Sainte-Croix:
[DR: Link removed. No links to nudity are permitted on this site. No exceptions. Children read this site. Google it if you must.]
The Feminist author claims it signifies “superior women”. Y’all should be very thankful I’m empowering women by sharing this bit of Feminist church history. God didn’t call the church the “Great Whore” and “The Mother of Harlots” by accident, did He?
But I don’t expect y’all will recognize the significance of female fertility idols placed in the masonry over the entrance of churches. Even when that message is carved in stone, most folks will deny it, to go on stubbornly worshipping and serving women above the commands of God.
Got a head covering on your woman when she prays yet? LOL Does she keep silent in church? Do they submit in every thing, as unto the Lord? Do they eschew fancy dress to adorn themselves with shamefacedness? Or is she on the internet, eating the bread of idleness, presuming to correct a man of God? LOL
Perhaps your church needs a Sheela na gig?